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Lessons in Geography (Dennis Ross Edition)
February 24, 2009 | Posted by Charlie - 5:22pm | 2 Comments
Lots of folks in the broader foreign policy and defense communities have noticed, at one time or another, that the State and DoD regional bureaus don't exactly align. State has bureaus for Near Eastern Affairs, South and Central Asia, and East Asia and Pacific; DoD has Centcom, Pacom, and now Africom. It's not pretty.
So where exactly is the Gulf and Southwest Asia?
Maybe the State Dept briefer can explain.
QUESTION: Can you give us – well, what is the State Department’s definition geographically of Southwest Asia? What countries does that include?MR. WOOD: Matt, I didn’t --QUESTION: No, you guys named an envoy for Southwest Asia. I presume that you know what countries that includes.MR. WOOD: Yes. Of course, we know. I just – I don’t have the list to run off – you know, right off the top of my head here. But obviously, that’s going to encompass – that region encompasses Iran. It will – you know, it’ll deal with --
Becuase why would you bringing the list of countries included in Dennis Ross's new brief to the press conference about Dennis Ross's new brief?
QUESTION: Does it include Iraq?MR. WOOD: Indeed, it does.... .QUESTION: And so, does it include parts of the Middle East?MR. WOOD: Yes.QUESTION: It does? Does it include Syria, and it includes Israel and it includes Jordan?MR. WOOD: Well, he’ll be looking at the entire region that will include, you know –QUESTION: Where does that stop? I mean, you know, you have NEA which, you know, runs all the way to Morocco. So does it include –MR. WOOD: Well, he’s going to be in touch with a number of officials who work on issues throughout this region.
A simple, "Morocco is in Africa you fool, which not even the State Dept puts in SW Asia" would suffice.
The presser continues:
QUESTION: I mean, does this – is there a geographic limit to his portfolio, or is it really an issues-based thing so that he could be dealing with Morocco and Algeria --MR. WOOD: Yeah.QUESTION: -- and Tunisia --MR. WOOD: I would look at it, Matt, as more of a regional --QUESTION: -- and Kyrgyzstan, and the -stans that are not covered by Ambassador Holbrooke? And does it include Turkey? Does it – you know, there are a lot of unanswered questions from – from the statement last night as to exactly what he’s going to be doing. I mean, I presume it’s all of the Gulf – Saudi Arabia, that makes sense. But does it include Somalia, which is – you know, that there is – does it include – I don’t know --
Somalia. Which is on *a* gulf, but generally not thought to be on *The* Gulf. Also, see above re: countries in Africa. (Honestly, the real humdinger here is Egypt . DoD can't decide where it belongs--it nearly killed the Africom planners. However, State and DoD both agree that Turkey belongs to the European desks. Of course.)
In conclusion: Dennis Ross is Special Envoy for Iran, and assorted places where they get in our grills.
In conclusion: Dennis Ross is Special Envoy for Iran, and assorted places where they get in our grills.
Update: Or, in the mind of Intrepid Spencer: Dennis Ross is Keyser Soze of the State Department.
Update II: Thanks to Matt at Mountain Runner for the sweet map.
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