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Lady Gaga : Westchester County :: Haifa Wehbe : Southern Lebanon
Brett Stephens starts his op-ed in today's Wall Street Journal with the following question:
Pop quiz—What does more to galvanize radical anti-American sentiment in the Muslim world: (a) Israeli settlements on the West Bank; or (b) a Lady Gaga music video?
You see where Stephens is going with this one, right? I mean, you don't really need to even read the rest of the column, the point of which is that Islamist outrage over decadent western culture is a more significant driver of conflict and anti-American sentiment in the region than Israeli settlements.
I have no idea if this is actually true. It seems to me that I have seen both empirical evidence and anecdotal evidence lending credence to the idea that outrage over the plight of the Palestinians is, in fact, a driver of conflict and/or anti-American sentiment in the Arabic-speaking world, but there may be more sophisticated research and analysis out there that proves otherwise. And Stephens leans heavily on the writings of Sayyid Qutb to support his arguments, which makes me nervous, because for all his talents, Stephens is no scholar of Islam, and a few things that should not be studied as a hobby include:
- Brain surgery
- Multilinear algebra
- The strands and evolution of Islamist thought
Many serious scholars have written very good work on Islamic fundamentalism, and for those wishing to learn more, allow me to recommend, among many other works, Marty and Appleby's multi-volume Fundamentalism Project and Hourani's single-volume, highly-readable Arabic Thought in the Liberal Age 1798-1939
But I am not weighing in to either defend or attack Israeli settlements or to explain the intellectual history of the Arabic-speaking world -- two subjects I know just enough about to know that I should keep my mouth shut and let the experts do the talking. The purpose of this post is to highlight a key lesson of Middle East peacemaking: Leave Lady Gaga the hell out of it.
Brett Stephens may have read a few books on Islamist thought, but how many Arabic-language music videos has he watched? I ask because I have seen a lot (as they play pretty much 24-7 in 90% of the cafes and restaurants of the Arabic-speaking world), and I have also, this very morning, made a careful study of the oeuvre of Lady Gaga to determine which are more provocative sexually. The verdict? Lady Gaga is, in the words of my office mate (like Sayyid Qutb, an alumnus of the University of Northern Colorado!), "a brilliant art school trainwreck." She is a ridiculous mess who uses sex among many other provocations to entertain. And as I have well-documented soft spot in my heart for Italian girls from Westchester County, I feel I need to stick up for her.
Haifa Wehbe, meanwhile? Well, judge for yourselves, but whereas Lady Gaga is a Tisch School-trained provocateuse, Hizballah-supporting Haifa strikes me as a less sophisticated one-trick pony pretty much mixing sex with music with, well, more sex. Regardless, with music videos like this one, Stephens can hardly argue that Lady Gaga is the one importing sexual provocation into the Arabic-speaking world and stirring things up, can he?
And here is Her Gaganess for comparison.
And, back to Haifa.
By contrast, look at this tame video from Lady Gaga.
Uh... Crap. Okay, maybe Brett Stephens has a point. Dang. Me airing that last (in retrospect, NSFW) video might have just started a holy war in some internet cafe in Sana'a. Sorry?
UPDATE: There are some good and very funny comments below. Thomas Hegghammer even briefly weighs in to shake his head at Stephens's op-ed. Just so you guys know, I obey two simple rules when it comes to studying Islamist ideology (that I have borrowed from Will McCants): (1) Thomas Hegghammer's analysis is correct. (2) If you find yourself in disagreement with Thomas Hegghammer, refer back to Rule #1.
Oh great. I just through a
Oh great. I just through a MASSIVE hissy fit in the Londonstani Palin post and now you put up something that I want to comment on.
Never threat to quit a blog in a huff. It never works out well. For me, anyway. I am a creature of habit.
Lady Gaga is a 21st century Zeigfeld girl, and yes, also a "brilliant art school wreck." And so on and so on.
Somewhat unexpected, and
Somewhat unexpected, and definitely a weird juxtaposition (Qatb and Lady Gaga) - not that there's anything wrong with it.
How does this connect to the picture of Shakira with Robert Zoellick that this blog posted?
And while the fondness for Italian is, indeed, well-documented, the Westchester County angle is new, I think. Don't get me wrong - it's a wonderful place to live (if you can afford to). It's just that it's new information for AM's band of loyal blog followers?
To return to my first line: will we see Lady Gaga (GaGa?) becoming self-appointed saviors of the Earth (Bono, Jolie, etc.)?
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Brian surgery Pining for a
Brian surgery
Pining for a cameo on the Family Guy?
And on a related note, its nearly impossible to get non-state siders to understand that your typical Michael Bay movie has bigger virtual cgi budget than DoD. They're in for a shock when Maximus Prime shows up.
Osama bin Laden said it
Osama bin Laden said it best: If I were worried about your culture, I would have attacked Sweden.
AM points to something important about armchair analysts of the Muslim world, they have no clue about the contemporary popular culture, entertainment, etc of the various Muslim majority countries. Multiple sat TV channels dedicated to music videos, some of the Haifa Wehbe type are just one example. Brett Stephens fails to understand that we all live with contradictions and in many countires that includes [even the very pious] enjoying and participating in popular activities officially considered sinful.
While the Western press covered the negative reaction to romantic Turkish soap operas by clerics and some conservative men/men, they did not cover the many thousand fans of "Mohannad" and "Noor", many of them in hijab or Gulf abayas, who descended on Dubai when these stars attended the Dubai Media Festival. One Emirati father of three covered daughters said that he drove all the way from Abu Dhabi because his wife and teenage daughters insisted on trying to get a glimpse of these stars.
Globalization of mediocre, often offensive, popular cultural forms no doubt upsets, even disgusts, many people in various cultures, but that does not mean that they would wage war over it. Palestine, meanwhile, is the ultimate, most evocative, symbol of the suffering. If Stephens had watched TV in any region of the world except the United States, he would have seen scenes of horror during the Gaza invasion that might even have jolted his conscience.
I don't know much about
I don't know much about Arabic anti-Americanism, but something about European anti-Americanism. A lot of anti-American folks have absolutely no clue why they hate America. For example its fairly common to describe American culture as sex-obsessed in one sentence and complaining about American prudery a few seconds later.
So I suppose all those explanations are just self-deceptions of people who can't admit that they just envy Americas economic, cultural and military strength. This is intensified if people think, that their culture ought to be superior to the American - in the case of Europe the alleged reason is the rich cultural inheritance, and for the Arabs it is their religion.
The Army Training Command is
The Army Training Command is now using the latest Lady Gaga videos to educate and celebrate no DADT in the US military. I for one especially love the Kitchen/Poison making scene and being a proud uniformed gay male, I make my subordinates dance that routine for PT. Oh, and I'm also Catholic.
All I'm saying is.....
All I'm saying is..... Maaariiaa!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqspY_D7R78Wow. Just, wow.
Wow. Just, wow.Stephens makes a reasonable
Stephens makes a reasonable arguement and I say that as someone who is qualified to judge.
1) Islamism is without question, a reaction to Westernization/ Modernization. The central purpose of the Muslim Brotherhood is to restore Muslim societies to their "true" Islamic roots that had been set aside by the influences of Westernization/Modernity in Arab countries since the 1800s. The Brotherhood was founded in 1928 in Egypt and quickly spread to other countries -- that would be a good twenty years before Israel was founded which would certanly add credence to Stephen's arguement.
Moreover it's not just Islamists who feel that way. While the majority of Muslims are not Islamists, the vast majority would share their views about the negativity of Western influences of such music videos. They also have fundamentally issues with certain aspects of Western culture.
2) I question the extent that you have actually sat in normal Arab cafes and watched music videos since you're stories about the region consist of drinking beer with Westerners. That's not a normal Arabic cafe setting.
While it's true that Hayfa is sexual as are others, but if you read their lyrics closely you would find there is no comparison in terms of explicitness to Lady Gaga or Madonna or Britney Spears etc. Hayfa sings about love and shows a fair amount of skin by Arab standards and while raunchy never crosses any major cultural red lines. She never states, for example, or even implies that it's a good thing for women to be totally sexually liberated and have sex with who they want, when they want. If she did that she would have almost no fans. That message of sexual liberation is standard for Western female singers but a major red line that Arab females do not cross in their videos.
Moreover, Hayfa is considered a "whore" by a large percentage of Middle Easterners, and a large portion of men would have a problem "taking her home to their family," even if they would hapily you know what to her if they ever got the chance.
3) Don't see how either of the books you recomended have any relevance to the point your trying to make. In fact the Hourani book would tend to confirm Stephens point by showing that some of the central Middle Eastern intellectuals before 1939 had major problems with fundamental aspects of Westernization and well before Israel was founded.
I would also add that it's
I would also add that it's not correct to suggest that Hayfa videos are shown in 90% of Arab cafes.
For one, there is a degree of self-censorship on many of the Arabic stations that play music videos. The management of many of the stations, especially those that are state run, do not play the most sexually raunchy.
And two, most female Arab singers are not nearly as sexual as Hayfa. Most are more "wholesome" and family friendly, take Nancy Ajram for example.
So you are either wrong, or don't know what you are talking about when you suggest that Hayfa videos are more or less the most commonly shown for female Arabic pop music.
Its likely beyond the
Its likely beyond the capabilities of scientific research to prove which single reason drives an individual to a certain worldview - if there ever is one. But perhaps the trick is to combine different concepts which reinforce each other into a coherent worldview.
In Arabic (as well as Dari and Pashto) the mentioned issues would fall under the categories of "zulm" (oppression) respectively "fassad" (moral corruption). Ardent cultural conservatives will perhaps be more upset about "fassad" in their society (and from a strictly orthodox point of view, that means classical Islamic "fiqh" as scholars stil study it around the Islamic world, rebellion against a "zalim" ruler is still forbidden, while a ruler that spreads "fassad" is to be brought down). However, a rather big segment of society doesn't care so much about moral corrpution (sometimes really enjoying it) while they are still sensitive to perceived "zulm" (especially when combined with perceived hypocrisy).
As far as I can see it, spreading "fassad" is an accusation that Islamists make in their propaganda, but it takes far less room than their efforts to demonstrate how "zalim" the West is. The two can still go hand in hand (in order to show that our current campaigns are all part of the eternal struggle between the forces of evil and the true believers), but "zulm" is likely the concept that resonates with a larger audience. Once you prove the "zulm" of the West and their "puppet regimes", you can reinforce that notion with the hint to the moral corruption the West spreads (of cause in order to subdue the Islamic world by weakening its cohesion and enticing the seducables).
It works the other way round, too - but our enemies would be far less dangerous if they were only able to convince the likes of Sayyid Qutb.
Capable of shame? Really, I
Capable of shame? Really, I mean that.
Let me reformulate: US conservatives dislike heathcare reform cause a black man did it. No?
Oh how I wish I had time to
Oh how I wish I had time to write a proper response. Stephens seems to have missed the rather important point that Sayyid Qutb never waged or advocated jihad against America.
Let's make a SANDWICH.
Let's make a SANDWICH.
The news images of the war
The news images of the war in Gaza were just another video production. The actual fact is that the Muslims kill each other in far greater numbers. If you'd like to compare one three-week war against the Muslim Brotherhood to another one, consider that the Syrian attack on Hama killed more than 10 times as many people as the attack on Gaza. But Israel got more than 10 times as much criticism.
There is a big difference
There is a big difference between the anger against US policies: a] military occupation, b] support for corrupt autocracies and c] the Israeli-Arab conflict. AQ et al did not invent, but use to recruit a tiny fraction of young men to carry out violent acts against the US. This is separate from the view of the US as the ultimate source of the most immoral influences on the local society. It is local officials that are blamed for the presence of the offending material in their countries and they are seen as just more evidence of their corruption.
An outburst some time back on this subject [re the Turkish series] mentioned in one of the comments above by a leading Saudi cleric was a fetwa saying that it was the duty of Muslims to kill the owners/deciders of the Satellite TV stations, not the Americans [or in this case the wine drinking Turks]. [In this particular case, the fetwa was soon "redrafted" to clarify a "misunderstanding" in the original text.] Nevertheless, given that this was in Saudi Arabia, where the ruling family portrays itself as a pious defender of the faith, the cleric in question was supposedly stripped of his position within the government.
consider that the Syrian
consider that the Syrian attack on Hama killed more than 10 times as many people as the attack on Gaza. But Israel got more than 10 times as much criticism.
How very Biblical of you to point that out:
. . . the women came out from all the towns of Israel to meet King Saul with singing and dancing, with joyful songs and with tambourines and lutes. As they danced, they sang:
"Saul has slain his thousands,
and David his tens of thousands."
Saul was very angry; this refrain galled him. "They have credited David with tens of thousands," he thought, "but me with only thousands. What more can he get but the kingdom?" And from that time on Saul kept a jealous eye on David.
Thank you, AM, I feel I've
Thank you, AM, I feel I've learned something today :)
Sock Puppets - I want to go
Sock Puppets - I want to go to there.
I want to share some
I want to share some marketplace cognitive dissonance with you, from my perspective as a startup CEO.
I run a fledging Internet company in southern California, where home prices have plummeted, unemployment has soared, and - hold onto your hats - no one's buying new cars (this is southern California, after all). By all accounts, the economy here is wallowing in recession.
So when it comes to maintaining your workforce, you'd think it'd be an employers' market. Well, when it comes to high tech, you'd be wrong.
Yes, even as the Golden State's unemployment rate passes 12%, I and my fellow employers struggle to hire the talent we need. That's because the speed of innovation in IT, software, and barely-above-voodoo jobs such as "interactive marketing" and "social media strategy" puts a premium on skills that very few people possess.
My startup needs Ruby-on-Rails web developers. Do you even know what that means? It means they're hard to find! I could go on listing jobs that tech companies need filled but the point is that shockingly few people have what these companies need.
This is why so many companies out-source some of their technology work to India, China, even South America. Argentina is a tiny little hotbed of Internet-design-for-hire. Yes, yes: Cheaper wages have something to do with this, but not that's not the sole driver. Almost any U.S.-based tech CEO will tell you he'd rather pay more for quality, on-site employees than time zone-distant, foreign language-speaking offshore "talent". But if the skillset isn't readily available here and it can be found elsewhere, then...
I'm no labor economist, but a decade of managing Internet companies has shown me that the speed of technology change is increasing, not slowing - and that completely new job categories are popping up faster. This means that one sector of our broken economy that could keep growing -- high tech -- is facing a dearth of qualified workers.
I don't have the answer to this problem. But I know it's a real problem, and that's dissonance.
Huh ? I watched the Haifa
Huh ? I watched the Haifa video. I speak no Arabic and couldn't follow the lyrics at all (seemed a bit repetitive). Maybe they were risqué but the video seems me to be anything but sex and music and sex. I thought it was absolutely brilliant.
First, I think you are a little bit a decadent Westerner. To us the initial scenes of Haifa Wehbe and the kid might conceivably be a little troubling, because we might suspect that they will appeal to pedophiles. I think the idea that there is anything sexual in a woman playing with a little boy probably didn't come to the minds of Haifa Wehbe and the people who made the video. They have pedophiles over there too I'm sure, but they haven't faced the fact as much as we have yet.
Upon reflection I don't give a damn. The video is beautiful and there isn't anything that a filthy mind can't make filthy. I don't think we should allow the thought of pedophiles to scare us. I wouldn't have been troubled at all without your suggestion that the video was all about sex.
Then the handsome guy arrives. And has to baby-sit during the date. This is not only brilliant, it is also feminist. Clearly the video is a wish fulfillment fantasy. I don't think there are men like that in the Muslim world or the Christian world or the atheist world.
Still I found the video beautiful, brilliant and witty. And all that without understanding a word.
I conclude that not all Hisballah supporters are idiots. Some are geniuses.
Anyway, thanks for the name. I am now searching youtube for Haifa Wehbe.
Oh on music TV and censoriousness -- I have a 12 year old daughter who is a lady GaGa fan (sings the lyrics). I'm not about to turn to terrorism, but I do have my concerns. I also have a 20 year old daughter who is off at college. She was shocked to find her sister watching Lady GaGa videos and scolded me for letter her do so.
And she's just 20 !?! I don't want to think of what she will be like when she is 30.
Brilliant post over all, but really, you don't want to question Haifa Wehbe's sophistication, wit and intelligence when I'm around. I'm totally non-violent, but I have been known to raise my voice at times. And believe me, my voice doesn't sound like hers.
AM why don't you do a story
AM why don't you do a story on Nada Prouty and the blowback that is coming out now.
Would be an excellent story or topic to discuss, don't you think?
AM why don't you do a story
AM why don't you do a story on Nada Prouty and the blowback that is coming out now.
Would be an excellent story or topic to discuss, don't you think?
Bret Stephens frequently
Bret Stephens frequently writes an Op column for the WSJ. Nearly always about how wonderful Israel is, and how horrible Palestinians are.
His column today is surely the stupidest ever. The Israelis need to pay him to stop writing as his reasons today, for Israeli's illegal, immoral, inexcusable policies are, to be kind, inane.
First, he starts off making a great case for the Israeli behaviour causing American deaths in Iraq and Afnam. This was inadvertant of course, as he carefully reported on Pat Buchanan's latest article in Human Events that outlined the deadly Arab anger's danger to our troops over there. Buhanan made a good case (I read it) in explaining why Israel has caused the US extraordinary problems in the Middle East.
So.... idiot Stephens reviews the Buchanan column very nicely, carefully and completely, thereby, helping to prove Buchanan's point.
Then, after showing what a dumb cluck he is, Stephens tries to shift the blame for the Arab anger at the US onto our corrupt indecent sexually driven life-style. He says much of the blame now is because the Arabs are upset over Lady Gaga et al.
Yep. You heard me. They hate us not for our freedom but for Lady Gaga and Madonna and women showing legs and tittys in the US.
If you have the time, pick up today's WSJ (3/30/10). Page A17.
There is a picture of Bret beside his column. He appears not to be old enough to have Alzheimers, so maybe he's got dementia praecox. Otherwise, I have no explanation for his idiot writings.
Hey R et al., "shows a fair
Hey R et al., "shows a fair amount of skin by Arab standards" these days is translated to "shows a fair amount of skin". Though I've never lived in Saudi, I can assure you the Hayfa (and raunchier) videos are by far the most common type shown in upwards of 90% of cafes in Lebanon, Syria, and Egypt.
Also, I've been in hundreds of overly simplistic discussions with taxi drivers, random Salafos and myriad shabab who pull the whole "You know what the single problem with this part of the world is? Israeli Settlements!" argument, and I've had hundreds more with people who actually know what they're talking about who say just about the same thing. Variations include (but are not limited to), propping up miserable Arab regimes, US support for Israel, and killing Muslims. Not once (this means never) has "the decadence of the West" ever come up. Ever. You know what comes up? Israeli settlements. You know why? Because people over here really hate them. D'ya know what they don't seem to hate? Boobs.
"Western vice" may work well as a rhetorical device, but it doesn't win converts to radical positions. Displacement and murking 15-year old kids (today in Gaza) does.
Hmm. Does not the first
Hmm. Does not the first Haifa video showing a provocatively dressed woman in a purely domesticated environment tending to the needs of an infantilized male character align more closely to an admittedly degraded Qutbist vision than otherwise?
At any rate, I'm not sure it makes the point that AM thinks it makes.
She is a ridiculous mess who
She is a ridiculous mess who uses sex among many other provocations to entertain. And as I have well-documented soft spot in my heart for Italian girls from Westchester County, I feel I need to stick up for her.
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If you changed Italian to Irish and Westchester to Long Island, would you be willing to stick up for Lindsay Lohan? I think she needs all the help she can get.
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They hate us for our
They hate us for our liberty! You see, the arab isnt like you or me, but a lower level animal who absolutely hates tall buildings, cellular phones and intelligent crimesolving techniques! Animals I say, who all just want to live in tents and kill the occasional jew for fun!
Sigh. Interesting poll today in Haaretz, btw, wich shows that 21% of settlers are willing to fight a armed struggle against Israel in the face of eviction.
Bob (Fnord?) Look how hard
Bob (Fnord?)
Look how hard it was - on many, many levels - to remove the relatively small number of settlers in Gaza. To remove all or most of the settlers on the West Bank might well be beyond the capacity of the Israeli state - which might mean the end of Israel.
A fun, good movie is "Time of Favor," which - sort of - deals with the issue of settlers in the military; I think this would be a severe stumbling block, to say the least, in any attempt to remove West Bank settlers. For a somewhat tangential example, the Israeli Supreme Court, I believe, ordered that the home of Roi Klein - who dove onto a grenade in the 2006 war - be evacuated or demolished. Can one imagine the emotions that must have sparked among those who *feel* - and I use asterisks to emphasize the power of those feelings - Israelis are entitled to possession of the West Bank?
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I knew there was a reason I
I knew there was a reason I read this blog.
Ricks needs to get back to posting Carla Bruni pictures, or he's going to get left in the dust.
Perhaps we could have a regular monthly feature: Things That Might or Might Not Be Getting the Islamists Up and Out the Door with Suicide Vests Ready to Blow, But that You Probably Want to Look At Nonetheless ...
This article seems to have
This article seems to have the similar content:
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/features/view/feature/Would-Arabs-Love-La...
having read some of the
having read some of the comments I tend to agree that Stephens' point is moronic, because people hate images of bleeding children more than they hate tits, and few people are willing to make war on tits.
that said, the Gaga/Wehbe "comparison" is inane. They both go in the same Western column. Qutb would have hated both equally, and the latter is just Western decadence in Arabic. Find an Islamist-approved singer next time you feel like making this point.
I simply adore sock puppets
I simply adore sock puppets and fauxberry shirts with bubbles and popcorn. رائع
X, the U.S. Foreign Policy
X, the U.S. Foreign Policy establishment is now divided into two camps: The Lady Gaga Exceptionalists, and the Lady Gaga apologists!
Lady Gaga's great success is
Lady Gaga's great success is due to Muslim Music producer, RED ONE (born Nadir Khayat and fellow countryman from Morocco), you can find out more about him in this article: Grammys 2010: The Man Behind Lady Gaga
http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2010/01/28/the-man-behind-lady-gaga/
Something worth noting,
Something worth noting, prior to the 1979 Tehran Embassy take over most incidents involving American citizens being harmed or killed in the Middle East (outside of ordinary crime) occurred when factions of the PLO, Fatah or PLFP attacked within Israel. For the most part they were not targeting American citizens specifically, the people hurt or killed were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. There were exceptions, notably the kidnapping and killing of the US Ambassador and another official in Khartoum in 1975 and a similar incident with the US Ambassador and another official in Lebanon in 1977. Both incidents targeted Americans were carried out by Fatah and PFLP respectively, so one can assume a connection to the Israeli issue. I've yet to read of any incident, prior to 1979, were American citizens or interest were attacked by Middle East related terrorist or organizations directly because of our culture or cultural expansion. I don't doubt there was a disdain for and perhaps a revulsion of from a majority of Arabic and Muslim nationals but I don't see that as being transposed into direct action.
Since 1979 there have been many more attacks on Americans and American interest in the Middle East. Between 1983-1990 the majority of these, including the bombing of the Marine barracks and US Embassy occurred either in Beirut or in other parts of the world by organizations with roots within Beirut (Hizbollah being the prime one). The reasoning here is clear, we took sides in the Lebanese Civil War and the attacks are retaliatory to that.
In the early 1990s there was a spate of attacks in Turkey from an organization known as Dev Sol, the reason given was retaliation for US imperialism during the Gulf War. For most of the rest of the 1990s most incidents involving US citizens occurred in either Israel, most of them wrong place, wrong time things, or were US citizens and interest getting caught up in internal strife within ME countries (Algeria, Sudan, Yemen) or were directly related to our military presence within Saudi Arabia.
In the late nineties through the early 2000s begins our conflict with al Queda. The original reason for al Queda's war with America has been clearly stated by bin Laden, the intolerance of US and other Western (read Christian) forces in the land of Mecca and Medina. bin Laden himself as stated that they fight us because they feel America is at war with Islam. He scoffed at the simplistic notion that they hate us for our freedom indicating that if that was the case one should ask themselves why the US was attacked and not say Sweden.
I don't think this topic is that difficult to understand. Just look at the historical record of the incidents involving Americans and who committed them and one can see that the overwhelming majority, 90%+ were in reaction to either Israel, our military involvement in a Middle Eastern country or our support of a despotic Middle Eastern regime. Once again, I don't refute that many in the Muslim world look at our values as being decadent but to say that the main reasons for attacks on Americans over the past 50 years has been because of our culture is to not have a firm understanding of those attacks.
Maybe I am wrong. Perhaps there have been a huge number of incidents where the perpetrators have been caught and when asked why they did the heinous act they answered, Madonna, or 'I hate your freedom' or because you are decadent swine, or because your women show too much of their bodies. Most times it seems that the answers are usually, for Palestine, or you support Mubarek, or you have attacked Islam.
Comment by Bob on March 31,
Comment by Bob on March 31, 2010 - 12:41pm
They hate us for our liberty! You see, the arab isnt like you or me, but a lower level animal who absolutely hates tall buildings, cellular phones and intelligent crimesolving techniques! Animals I say, who all just want to live in tents and kill the occasional jew for fun!
Sigh. Interesting poll today in Haaretz, btw, wich shows that 21% of settlers are willing to fight a armed struggle against Israel in the face of eviction
I think that you should be wary of your words where you do not know anything about us, you go one day to an Arab country like Egypt? Have you had dealings with its people and face to face? Have you visited places like the pyramids represent Tradition? Or a civilization such as the Library of Alexandria and I do not think that ye you rely only on what Tzmton of news and events that we are terrorists and this stuff and all this is nothing but a political war and for personal purposes are all deceived by and we are all victims who suffer from the effects of this war Muslims and Christians and others, I for example, see America and hitting her on Iraq, but I can not believe they can all be Americans did so want to rape the rights of others and their freedom to live in safety and therefore do not think I can rule you only through the visit and do business with you and so do not I think you have to say we have animals because if we as well as All the people as well and we should not describe people animals because God gave us brains to think and distinguished us from animals with it and also that there are Muslims you claim they are terrorists, there are also Christians terrorists and others and the fact that he has nothing to do terrorism, religion, terrorism has no religion that he believes is the human person and depends on the idea of killing and there is no revealed religion: Muslim, Jewish, Christian calls for murder so we must all unite to stop these wars of attrition, and ideas subversive, and if you claim that freedom you have more from us and you are loving the freedom, why you hate (O defendant of freedom) to be our personal freedom to choose the religion that is Islam and we want !!!??
and to have more information the Arab Emirates has the biggest skyscraper in the world, or you do not live our time
http://images.google.com.eg/images?hl=ar&tbs=isch:1&q=%D8%A8%D8%B1%D8%AC...
and this a website for photos represents us (hate tall buldings hehehe)
http://images.google.com.eg/images?hl=ar&tbs=isch:1&q=%D9%85%D9%83%D8%AA...
to know the library of alexandria in egypt and egypt is an arabic country lol
salamo 3alaykom fi al 7a9i9a
salamo 3alaykom
fi al 7a9i9a alaho yansoro man yachae wa laho do al fadli al 3adim
in tansoro laha yansorkomsada9a laho al 3adim
ama ba3d yos3idoni an arfa3a 9alami hada li aktoba ba3da al mo3jizat alati sawfa ta9a3o fi hada al kawn honaka zilzal 9awiyon jidan sa yahozo lobnan li anani ra2aytoho fi ro2ya wa honaka zilzal tani sa yahozo italiya wa honaka zilzal talit sa yadribo al magrib bi dabt madinat al hoceima wa anti ya hayfae wahbi ra2aytoki fi al manam wa laho radban 3anki honaka sakarat al mawt la ta3rifo sariran aw kabiran ta25odo kola chay2 alaho yansoro al mo2minina bil mo3jizat wa al kafirina la mawla lahom isra2il awal al boldan alati sayadribo fiha a zillzal bi 7.2 3ala mi9yas richter lam yab9a al katir wa tsunami jadid sa yadribo tel aviv ana ajmal chab fi al kon wal motakabir howa laho ana a ro2ya alati araha ta9a3o bi tamami wal kamal fi chata an7a2i al 3alam
ana ouridou an a9oula li
ana ouridou an a9oula li hayfae wahbi toubi ila lah lianaho ma min chay2in ila wa sayachhado 3alayki yawma al 9iyama
a3oudo bilahi mina a chaytani a rajim ,´. ya abati ini ra2ayto a7ada 3achara kawkaban wa cham sa wal 9amara ra2aytohom li sajidina. . - saba9a laho al hadim
alaho yansoro al moslimina bil mo3jizat alaho 9awiyon matin alaho yo7ibo al moslimina
honaka tsunami jadid sa yadribo tel aviv fi asra2i wa9tin momkin honaka zilzal modamir sayahozo lobnan bi idni lah wa hadihi ro2ya wa ro2ya a sali7a mina lah wal 7olom mina a chaytan wa laho yo2ayido man yachae ana fi al 7a9i9a ara a ro2ya fi al manam wa ta9a3o ba3da ayam ma3douda wa howa aladi yosawirokom fi al ar7ami kayfa ya cha2 sada9a alaho al 3adim
wa nancy agram kanat torido walad wa laho raza9aha bi bint fi 7ayatiha lan yarzo9aha alaho bil walad lan ta7loma bil waladi abdan wa hada sir
lama daraba tsunami indonesya ana konto fi mustachfa al majanin 9ala li a tabib ma bika 9olto laho ana zawjati hiya nancy ajram fiya rou7 al 9odoss tasma3oni wa asma3oha lam tamor 3alayhi ayam 7ata daraba tsunami chadid wa da3awto alaha katiran dalika al yawm konto ad3ou alaha 3ala al kofar wa alaho ayadani bi nasrihi
ana mina a ta2ifa al mansoura wa a chay5 oussama ben laden howa amirou al mo2minina fi hada al kawn
ida kanat lobnan hiya ajmal
ida kanat lobnan hiya ajmal chaba fi al 3alam fa honaka ajmal chab fi al 3alam fa laho ya5taro makana lahomo al 5iyara sob7anaho wa ta3ala 3ama yochrikouna
fa laho la boda anaho ja3ala 5alifa fi al ard ina alah a jamilon yo7ibo al jamal awalan jamalo al 9alb touma ba3da dalik jamalo al wajh ya nas honaka mo3jizat sawfa ta9a3o fi hada al kawn 3ama 9arib lazim a tawba wa rojou3 ila lah
ya9oulouna ana lil jamali
ya9oulouna ana lil jamali ma3na honaka 5alifat sayidona youseuf fi hada al kawn honaka insan jamil jidan yo7ibo hayfae wahbi wa in kanat kabira al mohim much howa a sin al mohim howa al 7ob
ana fi al 7a9i9a baghar 3ala hayfa lianaha jamila w baracha7ha tkoun malikat jamal al 3alam ana 3ama 9arib sa adhar fi a tilfaz liani lazem a3mal 7isab li koli fard lazem ywajihni wajahto man howa ajmal wa lakin fi al a5ir istaslam ana ba7ibi al lbc w ba7ebi rotana w ba7ebi a chat ana hona f espagna lakini sawfa arfa3 wara9a fiha maktoub hayfa fi mal3ab li korat al 9adam hona fi malaga likoli fard 5atam fa a rasoul sala laho 3alayhi wa salam laho 5atam anobowa 3ibara 3an bayda kanat fi dahrihi wa kol fard ila wa ja3ala laho al laho 5atam wa ana a law ta3lamouna ayna howa al 5atam la ma sada9tom ana 5atam al jamal fi al jihaz a tanasoly ya3ni fi a dakar 3ala jihat al yamin wa fiya 3alamat fi al wajh 3ala jihat al yamin ana ba7ebik ya hayfae w lazem awselek ya3ni much ba3id lakini akid 7awselek w 7atchoufi al jamal ana ba7aderek titzawaji tani liano ma louch lozoum law 3ayza titgawizi tazawaji biya ana
man howa ajmal insan fi al
man howa ajmal insan fi al 3alam lazem yedhar al insan da 3alachan tchoufou a nas w trachi7o ino ykoun ajmal insan fi al 3alam dayman alaho howa al motakabir al kibro lilahi lakin hona fi hada al kawn man yatakabar wa la ya5afo a lah man la ya5afo lah la janata lah lianaho fi al 5irati mina al 5asirina
ba7ebek ya hayfae
ba7ebek ya hayfae
ba7ebek ya hayfae
lama tchoufini w enti ti7komi min howa al ajmal fi hada al kon ana
fi al 7a9i9a bachar 3adi da3if al 9awiyo howa a laho a laho ja3ala fi al moslimina 5alifat sayidouna youseuf 3alayhi a salato wa salam bachar jamilon jidan
ya hayfae ana ba9oulik ibori wenti 7atiwsali li a3la maratib al jamal lazem awsalek lazem awsalek bi aye taman
ana 1.67 laken mich mohim
Funny comparison : a
Funny comparison : a musician and a prostitute. The musician perfoms in minimal clothing, the prostitute stays to her seducing skills.
salam haifa kif a7walek ya
salam haifa kif a7walek ya gamila ana konti tkalamti 3an mo3jizat sawfa ta9a3o fi hada a zaman b sara7a 9olto min 9abl ana honaka fayadanat sawfa ta9a3o fi al barazil wa 9olto ana maliko a saudiya sawfa yamout ina lilahi wa ina ilayhi raji3ouna
ama ba3d yos3idoni an arfa3a 9alami hada likay aktoba bi koli chay2
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Gaga explained that the music
Gaga explained that the music video is a continuation of the video for "Paparazzi", and is also shot as a short film. The video features Gaga in a prison, from where she gets bailed out by Beyoncé. Soon after, they go to a diner where they kill the guests having breakfast.vacations packages all inclusive Gaga and Knowles escape from the diner, and end up in a high speed police chase. The video referenced Quentin Tarantino and his films Kill Bill: Vol. 1 (2003) and Pulp Fiction (1994) and Callie Khouri's Thelma & Louise.POCODOT
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yeah..would love Lady Gaga to
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