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(Hardcore) Quote (from a Veteran) of the Day

Who knew Michael Caine was a veteran of the Korean War? I sure didn't. I thought this quote of his from an article in the New Yorker, though, was pretty awesome:

“When I was nineteen and a soldier, I often wondered how I was going to be if I knew I was going to die. At one point, we were ambushed in the paddy fields, just four of us surrounded by Chinese. And my instinct — which has lasted me the rest of my life — was: All right, I’m going to die. And that’s O.K. But” — he paused and levelled a heavy finger at the recollected enemy, and at any future adversaries — “as many of you as possible are going to die with me. I’ll take the whole fucking lot.” He grinned. “I’m going to die expensive.”

By the way, if you're looking for a primer in the effects of massed firepower delivered by disciplined infantrymen, you could do worse than to watch this Caine classic.*

*One amusing feature of this movie is listening to Caine -- born and raised in working-class South London -- trying to affect a middle-class Home Counties accent. Almost as good/awful as Sean Connery's infamous Russian accent.

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Best movie ever.

Best movie ever.

The other day I found out

The other day I found out that Mel Brooks fought in the Battle of the Bulge. Took some time for me to put those two together.

Duder, not only was Caine a

Duder, not only was Caine a Korean War vet but he's even in a Korean war film: 'A Hill in Korea'.

Nearly as amusing is the

Nearly as amusing is the fact that your link to Caine movie has as other movies customers like - Zulu Dawn, Shaka, and yes...Avatar as well. Buy them together and save 30%....3 of the movies based on history. one is...

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Caine is a gem.

He was pretty good as that

He was pretty good as that German in "The Eagle has landed".

While we're talking about combat vet-thepians, did you know that Christopher Lee volunteered for the Finish Army in order to fight the Soviet invasion pre-WWII ?

Michael Caine is

Michael Caine is amazing.

He's been in some of my favorite movies, and the range of the roles are, well, amazing.

(He said some pretty cool things in that Charlie Rose interview a while back, especially about class and his comfort - and discomfort - with aspects of it, and how welcome he felt when first in America.)

Doing Lady Gaga remakes of

Doing Lady Gaga remakes of Telephone is fine, post DADT,

BUT

I will go ballistic if they start doing Justin Beiber videos!!! you have to draw the line somewhere.

Caine's accent in the film

Caine's accent in the film is actually very good and doesn't once trip fall back into his working class London notes as far as I recall.

That's why he makes the best

That's why he makes the best Alfred, Batman's COIN and CT advisor, when he couldn't figure out the Joker:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyL7qR7IRCI (Dark Knight)

Bruce Wayne: Criminals

Bruce Wayne: Criminals aren't complicated, Alfred. We just need to figure out what he's after.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SFOkaxUp7g

Alfred: With respect, Master Wayne, perhaps this is a man that you don't fully understand either. A long time ago, I was in Burma. My friends and I were working for the local government. They were trying to buy the loyalty of tribal leaders by bribing them with precious stones. But their caravans were being raided in a forest north of Rangoon by a bandit. So we went looking for the stones. But in six months, we never met anyone who had traded with him. One day I saw a child playing with a ruby the size of a tangerine. The bandit had been throwing the stones away.

Bruce Wayne: So why steal them?

Alfred: Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

Caine brings to mind a movie

Caine brings to mind a movie relevant to the counterinsurgency issue ... The Last Valley... James Clavell's story for the 30 years war. The depiction is good to show the nature of the small village with often irrational religious influences. Many comparisons for the AF/PAK border area.

So much more than the man who would be king.

Stanley, a new retiree

Stanley, a new retiree greeter at Walmart, just couldn't seem to get to work on time.
Every day he was 5, 10, 15 minutes late. But he was a good worker, really tidy, clean-shaven, sharp minded and a real credit to the company and obviously demonstrating their "Older Person Friendly" policies. One day the boss called him into the office for a talk. "Stanley, I have to tell you, I like your work ethic, you do a bang up job, but your being late so often is quite bothersome."

"Yes, I know boss, and I am working on it."
''Well good, you are a team player. That's what I like to hear. It's odd though your coming in late. I know you're retired from the Armed Forces.

What did they say if you came in late there?"
''They said, 'Good morning, General, can I get you coffee, sir?'''

why would a former general

why would a former general be a wal-mart greeter, aren't they guaranteed spots in all the various "solutions" industry in the belt way after the military?

Malcolm Forbes is one of the

Malcolm Forbes is one of the most famous names in the world of business. Malcolm was born in 1919 in Brooklyn to Scottish immigrant parents. He graduated from Princeton University in 1941, and was inducted into the army as a private at the start of World War II.

Forbes was assigned to a heavy machine gun section in the 334th Infantry, 84th Infantry Division — the "Railsplitters." He served in France, Belgium, Holland, and Germany. Wounded in the thigh in combat at the Battle of Aachen, he spent ten months recovering in military hospitals before being discharged in August 1945 with the rank of staff sergeant. He was awarded the Bronze Star and Purple Heart.

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If I may quote the man...

“A little while ago I visited Omaha Beach for the second time in my life. In the intervening 26 years, nearly 20,000 tides had come and gone and little remains visible of the greatest military landing in man’s history of endless warring. What’s to be seen is mostly in a superb museum and a panoramic cemetery. The cemetery memorializes with dignity and grandeur the event and the dead, and moves one deeply. Before they die less precipitously and/or in lesser purpose, Americans who can should visit World War II’s Normandy Beach. Such seeing and remembering helps a man’s perspective.” -- Malcolm Forbes. He shortly after this statement.

At the age of 71, four years before my grandfather passed away, he received a letter from Mr. Forbes thanking him for his battlefield promotion to Sergeant and inspiring him to be a leader. My Grandfather, a Captain in USA for 84th Railsplitters, landed with Forbes on Utah Beach on D-Day +26. For a man who never owned an expensive car, attended Catholic Mass almost every Sunday of his life and lived a very modest life in the Adirondack Mountains, it was a bit much to receive a compliment from a man who be vaguely remembered.

You never know Ex, you might get a letter from one of your Sergeant's, 46 years after Operation Anaconda, thanking you for his promotion and inspiring him to greatness. Life is ironic like that.... just like the number 26.

Don't frow. That blahddy

Don't frow.
That blahddy spear.
At me.

According to the screenplay,

According to the screenplay, The Hunt for Red October, his accent should have been Ukrainian and not Russian. There is a difference.

Hit send to early- Forbes

Hit send to early- Forbes started to search for fellow soldiers shortly after that statement - it took him 46 years to find everyone.

Ditto: Awesome. I loved the

Ditto: Awesome.

I loved the way he yelled "fire" in Zulu.

I would only add Ex that it was disciplined infantry firepower in a well constructed tactical defense, which the latter was lacking at Isandlwana.

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@ Visitor likes Alfred on

@ Visitor likes Alfred on May 5, 2010 - 5:03pm

You know, just to be cheeky, one could paraphrase Alfred’s comment into a different context:

Alfred: With respect, Master Wayne, perhaps this is a man that you don't fully understand either. A long time ago, I was on the North-West Frontier. My friends and I were working for the government. They were trying to buy the loyalty of tribal leaders by bribing them with precious stones. But their convoys were being hit by IEDs in a valley north of Malakand by Talibs claiming to be led by Usama bin Laden. So we went looking for the stones to recover them. But in six months, we never met anyone who had them. One day I saw a child playing with a ruby the size of a tangerine. The Talibs had been throwing the stones away.

Bruce Wayne: So why attack the convoys?

Alfred: Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

Color me shocked that AM

Color me shocked that AM could mention Michael Caine and not The Man who Would be King. C'mon, it combined Kipling, Caine, and Sean Conery! You could not possibly ask for more in any movie, much less one about civilizing Afghanistan.

Alfred: Along with regard,

Alfred: Along with regard, Grasp Wayne, certainly it is a guy which you don't fully have an understanding of both. A long period ago, I was in Burma. My personal pals and that i were working to the neighborhood Expedia Coupons government. They were looking to acquire the loyalty associated with tribe frontrunners through bribing all of them with treasured stones. But their caravans ended up becoming raided in a very forest northern associated with Rangoon with a bandit. So we went on the lookout for the stones. However in six several weeks, all of us never ever met anyone who experienced exchanged along with him or her. A single day time I found the kid playing using a dark red the dimension of a tangerine. The bandit have been tossing the actual stones absent.

Bruce David: Why steal them?

Alfred: Nicely, due to the fact he or she assumed it absolutely was very good activity. Since a few guys are not in search of nearly anything reasonable, such as dollars. They can't end up being purchased, cajolled, reasoned or even discussed with. Some guys simply desire to observe the entire world burn off.

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Duder, not only was Caine a Korean War vet but he's even in a Korean war film: 'A Hill in Korea'.

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