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CPT Exum, As a college

CPT Exum,

As a college graduate considering joining the military, I'm curious what you make of this story.

Thanks.

Don't be a Narc. Remember

Don't be a Narc. Remember what the first and second rule of Fight Club are.

Better yet, skip the military, get a Master's degree and work for SAIC, L3, Cambridge, NG, BAE, and make some money. Take a break after graduating though and travel, go to Thailand or the Philippines, get all that out of your system, then work in the beltway. A 6 month trip to Thailand (avoid Bangkok for now) is equal to 4 yrs in the military, and a lot cheaper.

AM, You just reminded me of

AM,
You just reminded me of Adam Sandler's "I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry", Ving Rhames' shower scene ( here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCR2lyqxI5c ). I don't mind muscular gay guys in the military, so long as they don't dance like that in the shower. I understand it's cool to be gay now these days, but we have to draw the line somewhere.

What's the breakdown of male

What's the breakdown of male homosexuals to female? Is it unfair to say that repealing DADT will effect women more than men. I know that many of the high profile former soldiers against DADT are men, but (perhaps this is an unfair stereotype) I would think there is a much higher ratio of gays in the female ranks compared to the men. Can anyone comment on this? Don't soldiers largely self-select into the military? Meaning, the more "feminine" gays are unlikely to enter the macho culture of the military (as are other swaths of the U.S. population).

This point cuts both ways. Number 1, there are likely very few gays likely to join the military, whether or not it is legal. So, DADT doesn't actually effect that many soldiers. Number 2, however, if DADT is repealed, gay enlistment is not likely to increase much, much less increase overall military readiness. So the problem is largely a political creation. Might as well repeal it. Or not. Doesn't matter that much.

Finally, please don't compare rights for gays in the military to civil rights (this is just a general point -- not saying anyone on this blog is guilty). Rules barring people based on physical characteristics is completely different than rules barring people who do not fit emotional, behavioral or mental prerequisites. The comparison is down right insulting to racial minorities and the heroes of the civil rights movement.

What if that big bad buff

What if that big bad buff gay medic, gives you mouth to mouth, and licks the back of your mouth with his tongue, before getting you out of the kill zone?

When you've recovered from your wounds, and you go back to Afghanistan, what if that same gay medic invites you to a Bacha Bazi held by your Afghan military colleagues, who love this kinda sh!t?

Because he saved your life, you'd have to oblige your gay medic friend by going with him to his favourite Afghan show. It's too late, you realize you're the dancing boy in this sick twisted Afghan play.

Welcome to Afghanistan. And you can't tell on your gay medic now lover, because he and the rest of your unit will beat you to a pulp, because what happens in Afghanistan, stays in Afghanistan.

All because you thought buff gay medics are cool.

MediaAnalcyst, Gays join the

MediaAnalcyst,

Gays join the military, for the same reason pedophiles become pre-school teachers or join the priesthood. Female gays, otherwise commonly known as lesbians, joint the military for the same reason regular guys join the military--to get pussy.

For DADT to die a quiet

For DADT to die a quiet death by quiet, bureaucratic slow cuts. No trumpets and fanfare needed.
That would be counterproductive. As would propaganda masquerading as diversity training.

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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/05/26/world/main6521982.shtml

A handbook produced by the Swedes and given to other European nations not only has such phrases in English and Somali as "No talking" and "Put your weapon down," but also includes "Calm down" and "We are here to help you" - for use when boarding teams search Somali fishing vessels or boatloads of refugees.

But the coalition-building has also led to some odd cultural exchanges. Chief among them has been getting foreign officers used to the Swedish habit of socializing with little or no clothing in the warship's sauna.

During off-duty hours, the sauna is at the heart of socializing on the ship. Spanish, German and Norwegian officers meet their Swedish colleagues there after long days in the Indian Ocean searching for pirates, responding to their attacks and planning escorts for ships.......

Taking a steam together is an essential way of getting to know someone in much of Scandinavia, said Mika Raunu, a sailor in the Finnish navy. It's in the same tradition of Scandinavian egalitarianism that sees officers sharing rooms with lower-ranking sailors.

It also has led to a few cultural misunderstandings.

Lt. Cmdr. Carl Sjostrand told of a Swedish captain who invited a U.S. admiral to meet his senior officers after a formal ship's dinner. The American was led down to the sauna in full dress uniform - only to end up shaking hands with a line of sweaty, smiling and naked Swedish sailors.

Like all facilities, the saunas are used by both men and women, and the Swedish military does not segregate living quarters or bathrooms.

Women make up 20 percent of the sailors onboard the Carlskrona, doing everything from intelligence work to machine gun drills and working in the helicopter squadron. Among the female crew is Susanne Bursvik, one of two nurses onboard who help sailors relax between watches or exercises by offering massages.

"If I can help people feel better, I feel I've done my job," she said. "All these people are so far from home."

Her two children thought it was "pretty cool" she was out searching for pirates, she said.

The sailors have many rituals aboard the Carlskrona to break up the monotonous days and months. Among them: the captain gets the honor of eating the first flying fish that lands on deck. There are also fraternity-like raids to steal the mascots of rival ships - the current captive is a toy beaver - as well as the tradition of dressing up as King Neptune to celebrate the crossing of the equator.

Sauna, Scandinavian hotties,

Sauna, Scandinavian hotties, sounds like a porn shoot.

Gay females are called

Gay females are called Lesbians!!! Get it right, you bigots!

Gay, Lesbians,

Gay, Lesbians, Trans-Gendered, Bi-Sexuals, Fruit humpers, Small animal stuffers, Necrophiles, Smear peanut butter and let the Labrador lick it girls, Pedophiles, Bacha Bazi watchers and part-takers, the list goes on. But the official PC titles is LGBT (the first 4 of the freak show parade).

When he joined the service,

When he joined the service, and all he got was his own hand in the porto-potti.

We in Saudi Arabia also have

We in Saudi Arabia also have gays and gay rights. We pick one person in the platoon, count from 1 to 9, whoever is number nine gets to have all the platoon's penis in their ass. We laugh at DADT in America. Our gay rights is more fun and adventurous, similar to your wet cookie game, but we love the bung hole too much to pass.

To quote Iran's president, "We don't have gays like you have gays in American." LOL, he's not Sunni but he knows a think or two about gays.