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Quote of the Day
August 16, 2010 | Posted by Abu Muqawama - 9:09am | 16 Comments
But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.
Thomas Jefferson, Notes on the State of Virginia
Thank You for pushing the
Thank You for pushing the Self-Destruct Button.
Have a nice Day!!
"The site was bought by the
"The site was bought by the not-for-profit group the Cordoba Initiative for £3million.
It plans to spend £75million on a complex including a prayer room, mosque and ‘September 11 memorial and contemplation space’.
Developer Sharif el-Gamal said: ‘We are deeply moved and tremendously grateful for our President’s words.’
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1303463/Obama-backtrac...
http://www.salon.com/news/gro
http://www.salon.com/news/ground_zero_mosque/index.html?story=/politics/...
"But it does me no injury
"But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg."
The neighbor killed 3,000 people and that was after picking our pocket....and now wants to come back and piss into the mass grave. From 15 stories up.
I think you mean to say no skin off your nose.
If it ever gets built, it will be a terrorist magnet.
For both sides.
I just might leave a couple
I just might leave a couple Baby Ruth Bar's in the foot bath at that Masque.
http://www.spike.com/video/caddyshack-baby-ruth/3411364
I can see it becoming a Holy
I can see it becoming a Holy Site of Islam. A place for Muslims from all over the world come (that's the Ground Zero contemplation Room - a room where you can contemplate ground zero). From the Rubble: A call from Ground Zero - a call to the faithful. Easily the Holiest site for Islam in all of the Western Hemisphere. Just as you would make the Haj to Mecca, if in the caliphate of Cordoba you would visit the Grand Mosque, if in the far East the Great Mosques of Tashkent, if they take back "Palestine" the Dome of the Rock, if visiting Turkey the Hagia Sophia.
Come and see the sight of our great victory over the Great Satan. Here in his heart Allah smote him. And now he is humbled before God.
And Islam.
Your neighbor will
Your neighbor will definitely do you an injury if you tell him there is no God and he is a Muslim. In that case, a broken leg is the least of your worries. Stabbed, shot, decapitated, chopped up with an axe, that's what happens to those who "insult Islam".
Good article by Ross
Good article by Ross Douhat...on this very matter.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/16/opinion/16douthat.html?_r=5&ref=opinion
http://www.nationalreview.com
http://www.nationalreview.com/agenda/243812/brief-note-re-cordoba-house-...
Also very good points ...
I wonder if mr. Jefferson
I wonder if mr. Jefferson would stand behind that statement if were alive to see 17 religious fanatics crashed planes into the world trade center and the pentagon while chanting allha Akbar into the radio?
Outreach is supposed to be a two way street. If american Muslims want to show how tolerant they are then this mosque is a pr disaster for them. They are clearly offending a lot of people. Even Andrew Exum is hiding behind a quote of Thomas Jefferson on this.
Here is an example of
Here is an example of tolerance. I am taking this from memory. Several years back the catholic church wanted to build a convent in aushwitz, Germany. Several Jewish groups let it be known that they would be offended by the move. Pope John Paul ll agreed. He apologized for not taking the Jewish faith and the holocaust into consideration and worked with the Jewish groups to put the convent in another area.
See Muslims that's how you do it.
I see there is still a long
I see there is still a long line of individuals who believe the 9/11 attack was perpetrated in the name of Islam. It was not. It was perpetrated by a group of individuals who very much hoped that we would believe that the 9/11 attack was perpetrated in the name of Islam.
Congratulations, Osama. You won the first battle. We accepted the fight on your terms, and walked right into your bloody trap. Many are dead, and many more will die. You will not win the war. But you will have helped to make the United States a lesser place. You have driven many of its citizens to deny their birthright and to shuck their responsibility to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. You have driven a wedge into the American people, and between Christian, Jew and Muslim, all sons of Abraham.
I hope we get you, you bastard, and in my lifetime. The CIA's Cofer Black meant to relieve you of your head and deliver it to the office of the president. I hope to live to see the day when something like that comes to pass. I will buy a ticket and stand in line.
But your damage has been done. Enough of the sons of Abraham will carry your hatred and insanity into the next generation to make the future a misery to many.
"You will not win the
"You will not win the war."
yes he will....because you are prosecuting a war on Islam. you have allowed the hirgabi to frame it that way.
instead of allying yourselves with the benevolent parts of al-Islam, you have let the chistofacists and theocrats here convolve al-Q with all muslims. For nearly a decade the US has been attempting to proselytize judeoxian democracy with force of arms. It cannot be done. when muslims are empowered to vote, they vote for shariah.
During the Caliphate there was freedom of religion. Jews and Christians could be citizens, of sorts. But christian proselytization was forbidden. As a CSS, christianity evolved proselytization as a strat to increase reps. Islam evolved counter strats: resistance to proselytization, radical apostasy punishment, outlawing public preaching, absorbing the congregants and sacred texts of the other religions (the People of the Book).
The whole war effort, the Bush Doctrine and COIN both, are attempts to proselytize western-style democracy.
And Islam is immune to proselytization in situ....there is no substrate to support western-style judeoxian democracy.
you are building schools. fine…...but the muslim kids that go to those schools will matriculate to an islamic university in say, 10 years.
there are no secular universities. none.
im sure your intentions are good.
like the ones that ones that pave the road to hell.
but we have already failed. The Park51 controversy shows clearly that the american public does not understand the difference between al-Islam and al-Q.
2 trillion dollars and 6 thousand soldier lives later, are we ready to acknowledge that Bin Laden won?
If these points are to be
If these points are to be taken seriously, they run counter to the conservative belief that the "original intent" of the founding fathers was to be determined and followed. Here, we are modifying "original intent" to suite today's conditions which ... rather destroys the concept altogether.
Apologies if this has
Apologies if this has already been said - I'm catching up on my Abu Muqawama, and haven't the time to read prior comments, which may be a breach of etiquette (seriously) - but would we care if a church were built close to the Okalahoma City Federal Building?
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