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The Empire of the Summer

The Empire of the Summer Moon is a fine book. I also recommend TR Fehrenbach's Comanches: The History of a People for a more indepth look at the rise and fall of North America's Mongols.

RH

http://cnas.org/blogs/abumuqa

http://cnas.org/blogs/abumuqawama/2009/04/what-neoconservatives-got-righ...

So did Anon Bold win the debate here? After 9 yrs, it took America awhile to get anti-Muslim, but when they did, they pissed all over their 1st Amendment right and then some.

The question is why did SNLII and his views (smart, historical, intellectual) get overtaken?

Maybe Exum can give us a Muslim reading/viewing list? And ideas on how to counter the anti-Muslim wave.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ISHZQJdeSw (Listening to Arabic/Muslim Rap)

"Everyone" meaning Ivory

"Everyone" meaning Ivory Tower intellectuals, those with "COEXIST" bumper stickers and "moderate" Muslims? LOL. That's not "Everyone".

When people say "extremists"

When people say "extremists" or "radicals", I'm thinking maybe hundreds or a few thousands (if it's a movement), but 100 million is CRAZY!

What is causing 100 million Muslims to say, terrorism is OK, stoning in this day of age is OK, banning music is OK, ensuring women wear burqas or niqabs is OK, killing apostates is OK, killing Christian missionaries is OK, cutting of the clitoris is OK, banning women from praying in Mosques, etc etc?

What is it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNdvsLh128Q (Gerd Puin)
"the early history of the Koranic text is much more of an open question than many have suspected: the text was less stable, and therefore had less authority, than has always been claimed."
http://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs/issues/99jan/koran.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk40dR8UpaU (Christoph Luxenberg)
"Not in the history of commentary on the Qur’ān has a work like this been produced."
http://syrcom.cua.edu/Hugoye/Vol6No1/HV6N1PRPhenixHorn.html

What happened Justin L.,

What happened Justin L., don't you like Bacha Bazi too? If we leave that magical place as you suggest, you won't get to enjoy this forbidden Afghan delight, pretend you're a Catholic priest with Justin Bieber dancing only for you..

Visitor at 7:16 A.M.: "You

Visitor at 7:16 A.M.:

"You mean the same anti-Muslim America in which the four most powerful people in the national security bureaucracy jumped with both feet on one insignificant American who planned to "insult Islam"? Yeah, we really pissed all over our First Amendment rights in our anti-Muslim rage by allowing a mosque at Ground Zero but preventing one idiot from burning a Koran. Listen to yourself, you're just babbling."

It would be good if more people understood exactly what their First Amendment rights were. The First Amendment prohibits the GOVERNMENT except in certain narrow exceptions from regulating/prohibiting the exercise of free speech by its citizens. The preacher was not threatened with criminal prosecution or a civil injunction or a civil suit for damages. The "four most powerful people in the national security bureaucracy" did not "jump with both feet" but crawled on their hands and knees, licked his shoes, and begged the preacher to not follow through. There was absolutely NOTHING they or anyone else could have done LEGALLY to stop the preacher, except to beg. He didn't follow through because apparently it PLEASED him not to.

"The First Amendment

"The First Amendment prohibits the GOVERNMENT except in certain narrow exceptions from regulating/prohibiting the exercise of free speech by its citizens. The preacher was not threatened with criminal prosecution or a civil injunction or a civil suit for damages."

Oh, puhleaze! The President, the SecState, the SecDef, and the CJCS don't have to threaten the guy with criminal prosecution or a civil injunction or a civil suit for damages in order to inhibit the exercise of free speech by American citizens. That's asinine. The mere fact that they publicly called on him not to do what he said he was going to do was a de facto effort to regulate his free speech.

Wiki defines chilling effect as "a term in law and communication which describes a situation where speech or conduct is suppressed by fear of penalization at the interests of an individual or group. It may prompt self-censorship and therefore hamper free speech." That is EXACTLY what happened here. The big dogs barked, and the result was self-censorship.

Was looking at the reading

Was looking at the reading list. Noted that the local library has some of the books on shelf.

Interesting about the Empire of the Summer Moon. Book was based on accounts of what people saw makes you wonder if the information was dressed up a bit. That started me thinking about how the good ole USA got most of its land west of the orginal 13 states.

We purchased it.

Darn Indians should have put a stake in the ground and got a deed. Maybe that is what all those arrows were about? Folks that got the point are not around any more. Commanches made good fighters, bad lawyers. I think the Taliban have a few laywers on the payroll.

New Stategy in Afghanistan? Ask Karsai how much he would take for the place, I am sure that Benny could print up some money for the transaction. Then have a free land program. Isn't there "gold in them there hills"?

Purchase Afghanistan.

Trillion gone already, could have applied that to the purchase price. Think the price would have been better if we had not told them about the trillion in natural resources.

ADTS....@9.54 Get past it

ADTS....@9.54

Get past it and just say......Academics is just another pissing contest.

More letters at the end, the bigger the ego.

Think these guys are PhD's!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNafue2H9v0

"If you haven't noticed, the

"If you haven't noticed, the preacher very successfully exercised his free speech rights. He got his message spread all over the world."

Yup, and caused headaches in Pakistan, Afghanistan and Kashmir. He certainly did get his message spread. At the eve of Afghan elections, our troops have to deal with his BS?

We should've taken Pastor Jones to Gitmo when this all began, and made him a Bacha Bazi to the many Afghan detainees there. They would've had a field day in his ass, literally. That's how these guys role--right Josh, you're the Afghan expert here. "Hot tranny mess" would be an understatement.

@@==== -) ..... (*jiz*)

Simeone at 1:24 P.M. "So,

Simeone at 1:24 P.M.
"So, based on your arguments you would have no problem if Pres. Obama etc. were to go "ASKING/BEGGING" the NY Imam to move his Mosque away from ground zero, and he relented? You'd have no problem with that right?"

Absolutely no problem at all.

Speech can persuade. Some speech persuades more effectively than other speech. Maybe the preacher called off the bonfire after having soberly considered the arguments against it and deciding that was correct thing to do. Maybe if Obama had tried to persuade the Iman to build somewhere else, he would have.

You will note that in neither of my comments above at 8:53 A.M. and at 10:19 A.M. did I express my opinion, pro or con, about the location of the mosque or the substance of the preacher's speech. What was driving my comments is an incomplete understanding by many people of first amendment free speech rights. Moreover you will note that both of my comments were focused exclusively on the preacher's free speech rights. I wrote nothing about the mosque.

I unfairly in my comment at 10:19 A.M. challenged Visitor at 9:32 A.M. to cite a court case that supported his argument. Afterwards I did a google advanced search limited to PDFs with search terms of "chilling effect law" and received over 67,000 hits. Also I did a fastcase all jurisdiction search with the search terms of "chilling effect" and received 100,000 links to published opinions.

There is a lot more to first amendment free speech law than what is taught in a high school government class.

http://www.nuvo.net/indianapo

http://www.nuvo.net/indianapolis/warrior-scholar-blogger-andrew-exum-on-...

http://www.indianaworld.org/distinguished_speakers

With fees like that, you should easily pay off those college loans.... in a few decades!

CNAS is probably giving you the double goocher on this trip- 94 / 41 per-diem ...looks like you'll be eating at "Steak 'N Shake" for all 3 meals?

Hope this gig leads to bigger and better things for you Ex.

Cheers!

What's the comanche analogue

What's the comanche analogue of the movie "Zulu"? I bet it has John Wayne in it.

To go with Horowitz' book you can also read James Q. Wilson's "Bureaucracy". Haven't read "The Innovator's Dilemma", but heard good things about it.

But NOT SF--Special Forces,

But NOT SF--Special Forces, Green Berets.

Some other things of

Some other things of interest from AlJazeera

Part 1 & 2 are about Strategy discussion dated to 2009 leading up to the surge in Afghanistan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PupXTUn9Mo Empire - Obama and Afghanistan pt1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dr4to5T04w&NR=1 Part 2

This is the Islamic view of the War on Terror.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vny5wZrPAjw&feature=channel

Think the last program gives a view as to why the State Department is working so hard on current peace talks. I see the peace talks as a Hail Mary play by the current administration. Hope it works, but considering the history of all the players it is a high risk long shot. If you accept the three pilars discussed in the video(oil, status quo, and israel) I think that we would have more control and influence by getting out of the oil business. We would have to relax some of our EPA laws to do it, but it would open a door to independence with a goal of finding a cleaner solution. Relaxing EPA regs don't even seem to be on the table these days, but it would be a fast track solution (compared to a new energy technology). There has been some discussion of linkage between energy policy and the Afghan war it is not main stream and could be.

Our troops complain that Joe Plumber is not involved in the fight then bring the fight home by not using oil products that is a fight that every US consumer can be part of . If Dubai does not like a barrel of oil priced in dollars then link oil to something that they can relate to, a bag of food.

There are a lot of ways to change the status quo (Arms sales, Food, Military Protection).

Another way to change the status quo. BUY THE AMERICAN LABEL. (Save oil while helping dig out of the economic hole we are in, consumption is one of the biggest trump cards Americans can play in the world economy and we have total control of it !!! )

Guess were I am going is the strategy for the War on Terror (or however you want to spin it) needs to be comprehensive without putting the world on US welfare and considers the cost of the program (plus energy, plus middle east peace talks, plus how we deal with oil partners, plus how we deal with community centers in NY, plus how we act on the world stage, plus where we manufacture, plus social security, plus ....you get the picture, comprehensive that is what the Afghan stategy should be).

We got all these Harvard grads, highly educated, suppose to be the best in the business, walk accross water going into work every morning, hot shots that can not seem to get it right. Why is the American public letting these guys get away with marginal performance at a six figure salary with benefits that you can not dream of in the private sector anymore? Fifty odd million Americans do not have health insurance, but they are all contributing to the health insurance of these Federal Employees that are not performing............why?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ba-CZ96OYfA&t=19s (you guys can't beat Restore Honor)

Vistor @ 12:11pm Hateful?

Vistor @ 12:11pm

Hateful?

What is hateful about stopping a war while getting the American economy back on track and getting out of a bad situation.

@So did Anon Bold win the

@So did Anon Bold win the debate here? After 9 yrs, it took America awhile to get anti-Muslim, but when they did, they pissed all over their 1st Amendment right and then some.

Yes. It happened after 19 mos of being attacked at home again, shot to fuck at Ft Hood, a President who goes around apologizing for the nation he is the putative leader of, culminating in the obscenity of a Mega Mosque overlooking the Ground Zero graveyard, and finally the Shankville PA submission to Islam on 9/11/10 by POTUS. Which he has no right to do, but he doesn't know his limits.

The question is why did SNLII and his views (smart, historical, intellectual) get overtaken?

By events, see above. Also the fact that Anon Bold has a plan, and a achievable wartime goal. DC, and the academics don't. You might recall my own ideas on adopting the Takfiri defense mechanism. That's pretty much fucked now. The Board has been completely thrown up into the air, most of the pieces will come down where they may. There's only Queens - white and black - fixed. In downtown Manhattan.

Maybe Exum can give us a Muslim reading/viewing list? to acknowledge that Islam has anything to do with the war is to destroy his carefully confabulated Liberal Lego world. So, er..real unlikely. May I suggest "Milestones" and "The Management of Savagery". There's also "Global Guerrillas".

And ideas on how to counter the anti-Muslim wave. . Yeah. You need guns and bullets for about 200 million pissed off and pissed on Americans.

Reap the benefits of being a Liberal Client, oh Amiriki Muslimiyah. You.Are.So.Fucked.

You Delta boys are a bunch

You Delta boys are a bunch of undisciplined cowboys. Let me tell you something, Alamo Scout. When we get on the five yard line, you're gonna need my Rangers. So y'all better learn to be team players. We're done here!

I bet he enjoyed the

I bet he enjoyed the workout, as much as the biscuits 'n gravy @ the Loveless Cafe this weekend Exum!

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