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On Tuesday, 9 November 2010, 2nd Lt. Robert Kelly, USMC, was killed in Afghanistan. Four days later, his father, Lt. Gen. John Kelly, USMC, gave the following speech. He did not mention his own son's death. He tells the story of two other Marines instead.
This is powerful stuff. Semper Fidelis.
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Nine years ago two of the four commercial aircraft took off from Boston, Newark, and Washington. Took off fully loaded with men, women and children—all innocent, and all soon to die. These aircraft were targeted at the World Trade Towers in New York, the Pentagon, and likely the Capitol in Washington, D.C.. Three found their mark. No American alive old enough to remember will ever forget exactly where they were, exactly what they were doing, and exactly who they were with at the moment they watched the aircraft dive into the World Trade Towers on what was, until then, a beautiful morning in New York City. Within the hour 3,000 blameless human beings would be vaporized, incinerated, or crushed in the most agonizing ways imaginable. The most wretched among them—over 200—driven mad by heat, hopelessness, and utter desperation leapt to their deaths from 1,000 feet above Lower Manhattan. We soon learned hundreds more were murdered at the Pentagon, and in a Pennsylvania farmer’s field.
Once the buildings had collapsed and the immensity of the attack began to register most of us had no idea of what to do, or where to turn. As a nation, we were scared like we had not been scared for generations. Parents hugged their children to gain as much as to give comfort. Strangers embraced in the streets stunned and crying on one another’s shoulders seeking solace, as much as to give it. Instantaneously, American patriotism soared not “as the last refuge” as our national-cynical class would say, but in the darkest times Americans seek refuge in family, and in country, remembering that strong men and women have always stepped forward to protect the nation when the need was dire—and it was so God awful dire that day—and remains so today.
There was, however, a small segment of America that made very different choices that day…actions the rest of America stood in awe of on 9/11 and every day since. The first were our firefighters and police, their ranks decimated that day as they ran towards—not away from—danger and certain death. They were doing what they’d sworn to do—“protect and serve”—and went to their graves having fulfilled their sacred oath. Then there was you Armed Forces, and I know I am a little biased in my opinion here, but the best of them are Marines. Most wearing the Eagle, Globe and Anchor today joined the unbroken ranks of American heroes after that fateful day not for money, or promises of bonuses or travel to exotic liberty ports, but for one reason and one reason alone; because of the terrible assault on our way of life by men they knew must be killed and extremist ideology that must be destroyed. A plastic flag in their car window was not their response to the murderous assault on our country. No, their response was a commitment to protect the nation swearing an oath to their God to do so, to their deaths. When future generations ask why America is still free and the heyday of Al Qaeda and their terrorist allies was counted in days rather than in centuries as the extremists themselves predicted, our hometown heroes—soldiers, sailors, airmen, Coast Guardsmen, and Marines—can say, “because of me and people like me who risked all to protect millions who will never know my name.”
As we sit here right now, we should not lose sight of the fact that America is at risk in a way it has never been before. Our enemy fights for an ideology based on an irrational hatred of who we are. Make no mistake about that no matter what certain elements of the “chattering class” relentlessly churn out. We did not start this fight, and it will not end until the extremists understand that we as a people will never lose our faith or our courage. If they persist, these terrorists and extremists and the nations that provide them sanctuary, they must know they will continue to be tracked down and captured or killed. America’s civilian and military protectors both here at home and overseas have for nearly nine years fought this enemy to a standstill and have never for a second “wondered why.” They know, and are not afraid. Their struggle is your struggle. They hold in disdain those who claim to support them but not the cause that takes their innocence, their limbs, and even their lives. As a democracy—“We the People”—and that by definition is every one of us—sent them away from home and hearth to fight our enemies. We are all responsible. I know it doesn’t apply to those of us here tonight but if anyone thinks you can somehow thank them for their service, and not support the cause for which they fight—America’s survival—then they are lying to themselves and rationalizing away something in their lives, but, more importantly, they are slighting our warriors and mocking their commitment to the nation.
Since this generation’s “day of infamy” the American military has handed our ruthless enemy defeat-after-defeat but it will go on for years, if not decades, before this curse has been eradicated. We have done this by unceasing pursuit day and night into whatever miserable lair Al Qaeda, the Taliban, and their allies, might slither into to lay in wait for future opportunities to strike a blow at freedom. America’s warriors have never lost faith in their mission, or doubted the correctness of their cause. They face dangers everyday that their countrymen safe and comfortable this night cannot imagine. But this has always been the case in all the wars our military have been sent to fight. Not to build empires, or enslave peoples, but to free those held in the grip of tyrants while at the same time protecting our nation, its citizens, and our shared values. And, ladies and gentlemen, think about this, the only territory we as a people have ever asked for from any nation we have fought alongside, or against, since our founding, the entire extent of our overseas empire, as a few hundred acres of land for the 24 American cemeteries scattered around the globe. It is in these cemeteries where 220,000 of our sons and daughters rest in glory for eternity, or are memorialized forever because their earthly remains are lost forever in the deepest depths of the oceans, or never recovered from far flung and nameless battlefields. As a people, we can be proud because billions across the planet today live free, and billions yet unborn will also enjoy the same freedom and a chance at prosperity because America sent its sons and daughters out to fight and die for them, as much as for us.
Yes, we are at war, and are winning, but you wouldn’t know it because successes go unreported, and only when something does go sufficiently or is sufficiently controversial, it is highlighted by the media elite that then sets up the “know it all” chattering class to offer their endless criticism. These self-proclaimed experts always seem to know better---but have never themselves been in the arena. We are at war and like it or not, that is a fact. It is not Bush’s war, and it is not Obama’s war, it is our war and we can’t run away from it. Even if we wanted to surrender, there is no one to surrender to. Our enemy is savage, offers absolutely no quarter, and has a single focus and that is either kill every one of us here at home, or enslave us with a sick form of extremism that serves no God or purpose that decent men and women could ever grasp. St Louis is as much at risk as is New York and Washington, D.C.. Given the opportunity to do another 9/11, our merciless enemy would do it today, tomorrow, and every day thereafter. If, and most in the know predict that it is only a matter of time, he acquires nuclear, chemical, or biological weapons, these extremists will use these weapons of mass murder against us without a moment’s hesitation. These butchers we fight killed more than 3,000 innocents on 9/11. As horrible as that death toll was, consider for a moment that the monsters that organized those strikes against New York and Washington, D.C. killed only 3,000 not because that was enough to make their sick and demented point, but because he couldn’t figure out how to kill 30,000, or 300,000, or 30 million of us that terrible day. I don’t know why they hate us, and I don’t care. We have a saying in the Marine Corps and that is “no better friend, no worse enemy, than a U.S. Marine.” We always hope for the first, friendship, but are certainly more than ready for the second. If its death they want, its death they will get, and the Marines will continue showing them the way to hell if that’s what will make them happy.
Because our America hasn’t been successfully attacked since 9/11 many forget because we want to forget…to move on. As Americans we all dream and hope for peace, but we must be realistic and acknowledge that hope is never an option or course of action when the stakes are so high. Others are less realistic or less committed, or are working their own agendas, and look for way sot blame past presidents or in some other way to rationalize a way out of this war. The problem is our enemy is not willing to let us go. Regardless of how much we wish this nightmare would go away, our enemy will stay forever on the offensive until he hurts us so badly we surrender, or we kill him first. To him, this is not about our friendship with Israel, or about territory, resources, jobs, or economic opportunity in the Middle East. No, it is about us as a people. About our freedom to worship any God we please in any way we want. It is about the worth of every man, and the worth of every woman, and their equality in the eyes of God and the law; of how we live our lives with our families, inside the privacy of our own homes. It’s about the God-given rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness and “that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable right.” As Americans we hold these truths to be self-evident. He doesn’t. We love what we have; he despises who we are. Our positions can never be reconciled. He cannot be deterred…only defeated. Compromise is out of the question.
It is a fact that our country today is in a life and death struggle against an evil enemy, but America as a whole is certainly not at war. Not as a country. Not as a people. Today, only a tiny fraction—less than a percent—shoulder the burden of fear and sacrifice, and they shoulder it for the rest of us. Their sons and daughters who serve are men and women of character who continue to believe in this country enough to put life and limb on the line without qualification, and without thought of personal gain, and they serve so that the sons and daughters of the other 99% don’t have to. No big deal, though, as Marines have always been “the first to fight” paying in full the bill that comes with being free…for everyone else.
The comforting news for every American is that our men and women in uniform, and every Marine, is as good today as any in our history. As good as what their heroic, under-appreciated, and largely abandoned fathers and uncles were in Vietnam, and their grandfathers were in Korea and World War II. They have the same steel in their backs and have made their own mark etching forever places like Ramadi, Fallujah, and Baghdad, Iraq, and Helmand and Sagin, Afghanistan that are now part of the legend and stand just as proudly alongside Belleau Wood, Iwo Jima, Inchon, Hue City, Khe Sanh, and Ashau Velley, Vietnam. None of them have every asked what their country could do for them, but always and with their lives asked what they could do for America. While some might think we have produced yet another generation of materialistic, consumeristic and self-absorbed young people, those who serve today have broken the mold and stepped out as real men, and real women, who are already making their own way in life while protecting ours. They know the real strength of a platoon, a battalion, or a country that is not worshiping at the altar of diversity, but in a melting point that stitches and strengthens by a sense of shared history, values, customs, hopes and dreams all of which unifies a people making them stronger, as opposed to an unruly gaggle of “hyphenated” or “multi-cultural individuals.”
And what are they like in combat in this war? Like Marines have been throughout our history. In my three tours in combat as an infantry officer and commanding general, I never saw one of them hesitate, or do anything other than lean into the fire and with no apparent fear of death or injury take the fight to our enemies. As anyone who has ever experienced combat knows, when it starts, when the explosions and tracers are everywhere and the calls for the Corpsman are screamed from the throats of men who know they are dying—when seconds seem like hours and it all becomes slow motion and fast forward at the same time—and the only rational act is to stop, get down, save yourself—they don’t. When no one would call them coward for cowering behind a wall or in a hole, slave to the most basic of all human instincts—survival—none of them do. It doesn’t matter if it’s an IED, a suicide bomber, mortar attack, sniper, fighting in the upstairs room of a house, or all of it at once; they talk, swagger, and, most importantly, fight today in the same way America’s Marines have since the Tun Tavern. They also know whose shoulders they stand on, and they will never shame any Marine living or dead.
We can also take comfort in the fact that these young Americans are not born killers, but are good and decent young men and women who for going on ten years have performed remarkable acts of bravery and selflessness to a cause they have decided is bigger and more important than themselves. Only a few months ago they were delivering your paper, stocking shelves in the local grocery store, worshiping in church on Sunday, or playing hockey on local ice. Like my own two sons who are Marines and have fought in Iraq, and today in Sagin, Afghanistan, they are also the same kids that drove their cars too fast for your liking, and played the God-awful music of their generation too loud, but have no doubt they are the finest of their generation. Like those who went before them in uniform, we owe them everything. We owe them our safety. We owe them our prosperity. We owe them our freedom. We owe them our lives. Any one of them could have done something more self-serving with their lives as the vast majority of their age group elected to do after high school and college, but no, they chose to serve knowing full well a brutal war was in their future. They did not avoid the basic and cherished responsibility of a citizen—the defense of country—they welcomed it. They are the very best this country produces, and have put every one of us ahead of themselves. All are heroes for simply stepping forward, and we as a people owe a debt we can never fully pay. Their legacy will be of selfless valor, the country we live in, the way we live our lives, and the freedoms the rest of their countrymen take for granted.
Over 5,000 have died thus far in this war; 8,000 if you include the innocents murdered on 9/11. They are overwhelmingly working class kids, the children of cops and firefighters, city and factory workers, school teachers and small business owners. With some exceptions they are from families short on stock portfolios and futures, but long on love of country and service to the nation. Just yesterday, too many were lost and a knock on the door late last night brought their families to their knees in a grief that will never-ever go away. Thousands more have suffered wounds since it all started, but like anyone who loses life or limb while serving others—including our firefighters and law enforcement personnel who on 9/11 were the first casualties of this war—they are not victims as they knew what they were about, and were doing what they wanted to do. The chattering class and all those who doubt America’s intentions, and resolve, endeavor to make them and their families out to be victims, but they are wrong. We who have served and are serving refuse their sympathy. Those of us who have lived in the dirt, sweat and struggle of the arena are not victims and will have none of that. Those with less of a sense of service to the nation never understand it when men and women of character step forward to look danger and adversity straight in the eye, refusing to blink, or give ground, even to their own deaths. The protected can’t begin to understand the price paid so they and their families can sleep safe and free at night. No, they are not victims, but are warriors, your warriors, and warriors are never victims regardless of how and where they fall. Death, or fear of death, has no power over them. Their paths are paved by sacrifice, sacrifices they gladly make…for you. They prove themselves everyday on the field of battle…for you. They fight in every corner of the globe…for you. They live to fight…for you, and they never rest because there is always another battle to be won in the defense of America.
I will leave you with a story about the kind of people they are…about the quality of the steel in their backs…about the kind of dedication they bring to our country while they serve in uniform and forever after as veterans. Two years ago when I was the Commander of all U.S. and Iraqi forces, in fact, the 22nd of April 2008, two Marine infantry battalions, 1/9 “The Walking Dead,” and 2/8 were switching out in Ramadi. One battalion in the closing days of their deployment going home very soon, the other just starting its seven-month combat tour. Two Marines, Corporal Jonathan Yale and Lance Corporal Jordan Haerter, 22 and 20 years old respectively, one from each battalion, were assuming the watch together at the entrance gate of an outpost that contained a makeshift barracks housing 50 Marines. The same broken down ramshackle building was also home to 100 Iraqi police, also my men and our allies in the fight against the terrorists in Ramadi, a city until recently the most dangerous city on earth and owned by Al Qaeda. Yale was a dirt poor mixed-race kid from Virginia with a wife and daughter, and a mother and sister who lived with him and he supported as well. He did this on a yearly salary of less than $23,000. Haerter, on the other hand, was a middle class white kid from Long Islaned. They were from two completely different worlds. Had they not joined the Marines they would never have met each other, or understood that multiple America’s exist simultaneously depending on one’s race, education level, economic status, and where you might have been born. But they were Marines, combat Marines, forged in the same crucible of Marine training, and because of this bond they were brothers as close, or closer, than if they were born of the same woman.
The mission orders they received from the sergeant squad leader I am sure went something likfe: “Okay you two clowns, stand this post and let no unauthorized personnel or vehicles pass.” “You clear?” I am also sure Yale and Haerter then rolled their eyes and said in unison something like: “Yes Sergeant,” with just enough attitude that made the point without saying the words, “No kidding sweetheart, we know what we’re doing.” They then relieved two other Marines on watch and took up their post at the entry control point of Joint Security Station Nasser, in the Sophia section of Ramadi, al Anbar, Iraq.
A few minutes later a large blue truck turned down the alley way—perhaps 60-70 yards in length—and sped its way through the serpentine of concrete jersey walls. The truck stopped just short of where the two were posted and detonated, killing them both catastrophically. Twenty-four brick masonry houses were damaged or destroyed. A mosque 100 yards away collapsed. The truck’s engine came to rest two hundred yards away knocking most of a house down before it stopped. Our explosive experts reckoned the blast was made of 2,000 pounds of explosives. Two died, and because these two young infantrymen didn’t have it in their DNA to run from danger, they saved 150 of their Iraqi and American brothers-in-arms.
When I read the situation report about the incident a few hours after it happened I called the regimental commander for details as something about this struck me as different. Marines dying or being seriously wounded is commonplace in combat. We expect Marines regardless of rank or MOS to stand their ground and do their duty, and even die in the process, if that is what the mission takes. But this just seemed different. The regimental commander had just returned from the site and he agreed, but reported that there were no American witnesses to the event—just Iraqi police. I figured if there was any chance of finding out what actually happened and then to decorate the two Marines to acknowledge their bravery, I’d have to do it as a combat award that requires two eye-witnesses and we figured the bureaucrats back in Washington would never buy Iraqi statements. If it had any chance at all, it had to come under the signature of a general officer.
I traveled to Ramadi the next day and spoke individually to a half-dozen Iraqi police all of whom told the same story. The blue truck turned down into the alley and immediately sped up as it made its way through the serpentine. They all said, “We knew immediately what was going on as soon as the two Marines began firing.” The Iraqi police then related that some of them also fired, and then to a man, ran for safety just prior to the explosion. All survived. Many were injured…some seriously. One of the Iraqis elaborated and with tears welling up said, “They’d run like any normal man would to save his life.” “What he didn’t know until then,” he said, “and what he learned that very instant, was that Marines are not normal.” Choking past the emotion he said, “Sir, in the name of God no sane man would have stood there and done what they did.” “No sane man.” “They saved us all.”
What we didn’t know at the time, and only learned a couple of days later after I wrote a summary and submitted both Yale and Haerter for posthumous Navy Crosses, was that one of our security cameras, damaged initially in the blast, recorded some of the suicide attack. It happened exactly as the Iraqis had described it. It took exactly six seconds from when the truck entered the alley until it detonated.
You can watch the last six seconds of their young lives. Putting myself in their heads I supposed it took about a second for the two Marines to separately come to the same conclusion about what was going on once the truck came into their view at the far end of the alley. Exactly no time to talk it over, or call the sergeant to ask what they should do. Only enough time to take half an instant and think about what the sergeant told them to do only a few minutes before: “…let no unauthorized personnel or vehicles pass.” The two Marines had about five seconds left to live.
It took maybe another two seconds for them to present their weapons, take aim, and open up. By this time the truck was half-way through the barriers and gaining speed the whole time. Here, the recording shows a number of Iraqi police, some of whom had fired their AKs, now scattering like the normal and rational men they were—some running right past the Marines. They had three seconds left to live.
For about two seconds more, the recording shows the Marines’ weapons firing non-stop…the truck’s windshield exploding into shards of glass as their rounds take it apart and tore in to the body of the son-of-a-bitch who is trying to get past them to kill their brothers—American and Iraqi—bedded down in the barracks totally unaware of the fact that their lives at that moment depended entirely on two Marines standing their ground. If they had been aware, they would have know they were safe…because two Marines stood between them and a crazed suicide bomber. The recording shows the truck careening to a stop immediately in front of the two Marines. In all of the instantaneous violence Yale and Haerter never hesitated. By all reports and by the recording, they never stepped back. They never even started to step aside. They never even shifted their weight. With their feet spread should width apart, they leaned into the danger, firing as fast as they could work their weapons. They had only one second left to live.
The truck explodes. The camera goes blank. Two young men go to their God. Six seconds. Not enough time to think about their families, their country, their flag, or about their lives or their deaths, but more than enough time for two very brave young men to do their duty…into eternity. That is the kind of people who are on watch all over the world tonight—for you.
We Marines believe that God gave America the greatest gift he could bestow to man while he lived on this earth—freedom. We also believe he gave us another gift nearly as precious—our soldiers, sailors, airmen, Coast Guardsmen, and Marines—to safeguard that gift and guarantee no force on this earth can every steal it away. It has been my distinct honor to have been with you here today. Rest assured our America, this experiment in democracy started over two centuries ago, will forever remain the “land of the free and home of the brave” so long as we never run out of tough young Americans who are willing to look beyond their own self-interest and comfortable lives, and go into the darkest and most dangerous places on earth to hunt down, and kill, those who would do us harm. God Bless America, and….SEMPER FIDELIS!
"It is a fact that our
"It is a fact that our country today is in a life and death struggle against an evil enemy,"
Actually its not. The idea that a bunch of illiterate peasants armed with 1950's era weapons are some sort of existential threat to the US is preposterous. They are a nuisance, nothing more and the generals who insist on exaggerating the threat they pose are doing a disservice to the country. It will hard for many to accept but the thousands of casualties and trillions spent have been for nothing.
The story ending this speech
The story ending this speech is powerful stuff indeed. The rest of the speech is rather depressing.
Ever heroic, always victorious soldiers and Marines (well, in this telling mostly Marines) and an ever despicable, always defeated enemy do not add up to two separate wars that have each lasted the better part of a decade. That's just basic arithmetic, really. To make the left side of this equation equal the right side, the left side needs at least one more term. We know, actually, that it has many more than that -- and one is bound to wonder by this time if one of them must be the inadequacies of the American command.
Gen. Kelly's politics are his business; I have no real interest in that subject. My concern is rather that the servicemen and women he lauds in this speech be well served by the small group of men and women who wear stars on their shoulders. Kelly makes no distinction between one and the other, which is inappropriate for a leader in any organization, and I would think especially so in the military.
He can talk until he is blue in the face, as he appears to have done on this occasion, about the heroism and fine character of the men and women who have faced the guns of the enemy, and get no argument from me. I wish Gen. Kelly would bear in mind, though, that privates and corporals deserve honor because they serve, as lieutenants and captains deserve honor because they serve. Generals deserve honor when they win -- and only when they win.
When they don't, there must be an accounting. There hasn't been to this point. We know the reasons why there hasn't, but the fact vexes. No American, hearing in late September 2001 a description of the situation we face today in Afghanistan, would have called that situation acceptable. No American, in February 2003, could have listened to a summary of what has transpired in Iraq since then and called it victory. Americans given such foreknowledge would have wanted to know what went wrong. They would want to know who failed. There has been no accounting within the American military, and the fact vexes.
thank you for publishing
thank you for publishing this. Just as in the civilian world, the same human characteristics are seen in the military, tempered by the profession and honor codes but not very different. People are people.
But it is honor that motivates most of our military. Continuing the mission. Not letting one's friends down. Shit happens, and the farther up the line one goes, the rosier the colored glasses. And the warrior believes in his leaders because that is what he is expected to do. Even when those leaders are imperfect and f*#k up.
War is chaos. "friendly" fire isn't. Does that make Tillman a hero? How about Sgt. Sal Giunta? They were doing their jobs in combat, and that makes them hero enough for most of us. Just like the two kids General Kelly spoke of. Just like the General's son. War means body bags and collateral damage and PTSD. For some. For others it is an abstract discussed in conference rooms and offices and living rooms and on line.
If you haven't noticed, the world is becoming a cold, dark place. We're in the hole for trillions of dollars and the economic pain is going to be as destructive as many wars. It isn't over yet and the face of the world is changing whether we like it or not. Our leaders have much more than Iraq and Afghanistan to account for.
When our enemies use underpants bombs and shoe bombs to force our hands to the tune of billions, and when cyberwarfare is just as effective as the real thing and a bunch of radical Islamists want to choke off the lifeblood of the industrial economy and install a new Caliphate, I would suggest you keep your inside the beltway rants in perspective.
Warriors sign on the bottom line for their lot. McChrystal's sin was in covering up not to hurt the Tillman family, but to honor them. And to use this post as a soapbox for your issues is inappropriate. General Kelly feels the loss of every one of his men, as most good commanders do. Honor the memory of those we've lost, why don't you?
thank you for publishing
thank you for publishing this. Just as in the civilian world, the same human characteristics are seen in the military, tempered by the profession and honor codes but not very different. People are people.
But it is honor that motivates most of our military. Continuing the mission. Not letting one's friends down. Shit happens, and the farther up the line one goes, the rosier the colored glasses. And the warrior believes in his leaders because that is what he is expected to do. Even when those leaders are imperfect and f*#k up.
War is chaos. "friendly" fire isn't. Does that make Tillman a hero? How about Sgt. Sal Giunta? They were doing their jobs in combat, and that makes them hero enough for most of us. Just like the two kids General Kelly spoke of. Just like the General's son. War means body bags and collateral damage and PTSD. For some. For others it is an abstract discussed in conference rooms and offices and living rooms and on line.
If you haven't noticed, the world is becoming a cold, dark place. We're in the hole for trillions of dollars and the economic pain is going to be as destructive as many wars. It isn't over yet and the face of the world is changing whether we like it or not. Our leaders have much more than Iraq and Afghanistan to account for.
When our enemies use underpants bombs and shoe bombs to force our hands to the tune of billions, and when cyberwarfare is just as effective as the real thing and a bunch of radical Islamists want to choke off the lifeblood of the industrial economy and install a new Caliphate, I would suggest you keep your inside the beltway rants in perspective.
Warriors sign on the bottom line for their lot. McChrystal's sin was in covering up not to hurt the Tillman family, but to honor them. And to use this post as a soapbox for your issues is inappropriate. General Kelly feels the loss of every one of his men, as most good commanders do. Honor the memory of those we've lost, why don't you?
"We Marines believe that God
"We Marines believe that God gave America the greatest gift he could bestow to man while he lived on this earth—freedom."
But apparently not enough freedom to be an atheist.
"Most wearing the Eagle,
"Most wearing the Eagle, Globe and Anchor today joined the unbroken ranks of American heroes after that fateful day not for money, or promises of bonuses or travel to exotic liberty ports, but for one reason and one reason alone; because of the terrible assault on our way of life by men they knew must be killed and extremist ideology that must be destroyed."
Well at least he said most and not all which would be hard to explain with thousands of service personnel pulling the pin every year.
"As we sit here right now, we
"As we sit here right now, we should not lose sight of the fact that America is at risk in a way it has never been before. Our enemy fights for an ideology based on an irrational hatred of who we are. "
No. The enemy hates the US because of a litany of foreign policy abuses and errors across the Middle East since 1945. In fact even US 'friends" in the region usually are upset with the US. There may be irrationality in wanting to live in the 7th Century but being upset with US foreign policy is quite normal across the entire world- its just rare to find somebody willing to go to action stations.
"And, ladies and gentlemen,
"And, ladies and gentlemen, think about this, the only territory we as a people have ever asked for from any nation we have fought alongside, or against, since our founding, the entire extent of our overseas empire, as a few hundred acres of land for the 24 American cemeteries scattered around the globe."
California, New Mexico, Arizona, Texas, Hawaii, Panama, the Dakotas, the Philippines, Montana, Wyoming, Kansas, Utah, Gitmo, Puerto Rico......
"If, and most in the know
"If, and most in the know predict that it is only a matter of time, he acquires nuclear, chemical, or biological weapons, these extremists will use these weapons of mass murder against us without a moment’s hesitation."
Or. Note the conjunction that makes getting a nuclear bomb on par with a gas grenade. Condi Rice perfected this bait and switch and it appears to still be popular in the military.
It seems to me that a lot of
It seems to me that a lot of folks have axes to grind. Sure, the General's speech was a bit hyperbolic, but I think the Pat Tillman comments, unsolicited atheist jibes, and the dead horse issue of Iraqi WMD (which was indeed a debacle) don't really have a place here. C'mon guys.
Thanks for posting this one up- it takes a lot of steel to get up and make a Veterans' Day speech (because that's what it was) a few days after being told that your son was killed by a Taliban IED while on a foot patrol.
This is indeed powerful
This is indeed powerful stuff. Thanks Andrew. I'm also biased, since my son walked away from college to enlist in the USMC and is in Afghanistan right now, However I can state that every one of his friends that I've met joined to defend their families and country from fear. The Visitors of the world may give their glib (although untrue) one-liners, but these young people speak with their actions.
The suicide bomber seemed
The suicide bomber seemed pretty heroic to me. Funny how he only sees him as a-son-of-a-bitch. But that's how things are when you play war.
...I mean, his actions
...I mean, his actions weren't 'rational' either. He too ignored his survival instinct for a greater cause. Someone get him a medal.
Actually, quite a few of our
Actually, quite a few of our troops DO "wonder why" they're fighting in Afghanistan. And it's been well documented by the US military that the Taliban doesn't actually "fight for an ideology based on an irrational hatred of who we are," but because we kicked them out of power and now they want it back. They didn't plan September 11, nor did Saddam. If one really wants to stop another terror attack on US soil, the best way to do it is take all the money going overseas to Iraq and Afghanistan and put it into screening airplanes and ships arriving to the US more thoroughly and beefing up border security.
Whether we "started this fight" is debateable. American manipulations in the Middle East that were not aimed at fostering democratic societies are well documented, as is our lopsided support for Israel, which infuriates nearly everyone in the region and 'Muslim world,' both secular and religious.
The General and other men and women who serve our country defend the very right to have "chattering classes." It's called discussion. Usually it allows one better insight into complicated problems, like international politics and war.
It would be nice if the world were black and white. But not discussing this very gray world we inhabit led us to continue a senseless war in Vietnam that killed more than a million Vietnamese and 58,000 of our brave troops. It again led us to lose more than 200 Marines in Beirut when naively we took a side in someone else's civil war.
Let's honor all of those who have died in our wars by not reducing ourselves, or our enemies, to hapless caricatures, and speak of war and diplomacy as adult men and women, in all its complicated hues and tones. That is a real tribute to our veterans and to those who have made the ultimate sacrifice.
JPW: Kelly brought up WMD and
JPW: Kelly brought up WMD and he wasn't talking about Iraqi weapons he was referring to Taliban/ AQ weapons. I presume he's an intelligent man and knows very well that his words will be taken by many Americans to mean the jihadis have the potential to get a WMD capability that could threaten the US. They don't and he must know they don't.
If government employees make their views public they should have to answer for the veracity of every last word. A bit of exaggeration isn't good enough when the results are billions spent and thousands of casualties.
Sorry, AM, but while I do
Sorry, AM, but while I do recognize the difference between a history lecture and a Veteran's Day speech (I'm guessing) and that there is a role for inspiring oratory, but that address just bent the needle on my bullshit meter.
As others have noted, the threat exaggeration is bad enough. Recognizing the sacrifices of soldiers is appropriate, and the two he discussed deserve every bit of honor and gratitude. The LTG careens past that into openly mocking wide swaths of the very American public that he is protecting (even if they don't deserve it) -- that is petty and not needed for the occaision, and inappropriate for a serving officer to do in such a public way. Then of course this statement shows such breathtaking ignorance of or indifference to reality:
>"think about this, the only territory we as a people have ever asked for from any nation we have fought alongside, or against, since our founding, the entire extent of our overseas empire, as a few hundred acres of land for the 24 American cemeteries scattered around the globe"
The US has nothing to be ashamed about historically. It is true that we've been far less greedy and far more benevolent than a typical great power and it's entirely fair to point at that record. But let's not get all weepy-eyed about asking for 'nothing but a few acres for our fallen heros', because the rest of world knows exactly how untrue that is.
Traits of the modern day
Traits of the modern day general officer = looks cool in a uniform, has gotten strutting down to a science, silver-tongued politician, mediocrity, hyperbole, outright lying, not accountable for much of anything.. It's really good to be a general in a small unit war where few officers die, which means the odds of death or injury to a general officer are somewhere between slim and none. Life is good, especially with that golden retirement check and defense contractor largesse.
Oh, yeah, contempt for civilian/constitutional leadership is important, too. Have they put this on the OERs yet?
"SEMPER FIDELIS!" ... Not
"SEMPER FIDELIS!" ... Not always, not even from our best
Here's a excerpt (full text at http://www.feralfirefighter.blogspot.com) from my May 2009 letter to Senator James Webb (highly decorated Vietnam Marine) asking him to place a hold on Gen. Stanley McChrystal's Senate confirmation:
For thirty years your books have dealt with themes of honor, integrity, loyalty, and betrayal. Re-reading your books, I noticed many parallels between your books and the story of Pat Tillman’s death. On April 3rd 2008, I sent your office a letter asking you to become an advocate in the Senate for Mary Tillman’s struggle for the truth about her son’s death.
I believed you would feel a sense of kinship with Pat Tillman and his family: The Tillman’s are of Scots-Irish descent. Military service was prevalent and respected in the Tillman family. Mary Tillman’s uncles were at Pearl Harbor, her brother was a Marine, and her father was a Marine during the Korean War. Mary wrote, “From the time I was very little, I was aware of my father’s pride in being a Marine. When I was three years old … I would stand between my parents, feet digging into the soft leather of the big front seat, and sing the entire Marine Corps Hymn at the top of my lungs.”
Pat Tillman was driven by a core of honesty, integrity, and loyalty. His mother wrote, “Pat was honest and incorruptible; he would be offended and outraged about the actions taken in the aftermath of his death. … He was such a loyal person. He always wanted to do right by the people who mattered to him.” Coach Dave McGinnis said at his memorial service, “Honor, integrity, dignity; those weren’t just adjectives in Pat Tillman’s life; they were his life. Pat Tillman was the embodiment of loyalty and commitment.”
Similarly, in [James Webb's 1981 novel] "A Country Such As This", Senator Judd Smith said, “If nothing ever works out all the way, and if all things change, what’s left? Your family and your friends and your values, that’s what’s left. And your duty to them. … They’re the only important things in life. … And that the rest of it might change a million times, be called wrong or right or anything else, but you must never violate your loyalty if you wished to survive the judgment of the ages.”
Five years ago, Pat Tillman’s family were handed a tarnished Silver Star. It will be a travesty of justice if McChrystal is confirmed by the Senate Armed Services Committee, promoted to the Army’s highest rank, and handed his fourth star. But, perhaps you were right years ago in your [1981] novel, “A Sense of Honor,” when CPT Lenahan said, “I guess that’s what the world does to you. It makes you realize that honor and loyalty are traps with no reward.”
I feel you owe a duty to Pat Tillman and his family. A duty to place a “hold” on General McChrystal’s nomination and stop his confirmation on June 2nd. Yeah, that could be a lost cause. You’d piss off a lot of people. But, at least you would give Mary Tillman the small solace of knowing there is one man of integrity in the Senate willing to stand as her advocate. Someone willing to “be a lonely champion of lost causes…” Perhaps you need to take a long look at the picture staring at you from your office wall? [Grandfather Hodges "who himself lost everything because of the causes he championed."].
You’ve been a hero to me for three decades, since I was a teenager, through my years as an Airborne Ranger LRRP, to the present day as a firefighter. I haven’t always agreed with your positions on the Vietnam War, etc. But I’ve never before doubted your integrity. I’ve always trusted your sense of honor. I’d like to think that, after three years in Congress, you are still able to answer “No” to the question your great-Aunt Lena asked of you in 1975; “So you’ve been to law school. Did they teach you how to lie yet?”
. . .
But, instead of helping the Tillman family, Senator Webb whitewashed Gen. McChrystal and continued the Army and Bush administration cover-up of Tilllman's friendly-fire death. So much for the Senator's sense of honor and "semper fi"!
"SEMPER FIDELIS!" ... maybe
"SEMPER FIDELIS!" ... maybe not .... Part II
Here's an excerpt (full text at http://www.feralfirefighter.blogspot.com from a letter I wrote to Nate Fick (AM's boss at CNAS):
In 2002, Andrew Exum served as an infantry LT in Afghanistan (described in his book "This Man‘s Arm") and again with the Ranger RGT in 2004. During 2003, you led a Marine Recon platoon during the invasion of Iraq (as described in your fine book ―One Bullet Away, in Evan Wright‘s ―Generation Kill, and HBO‘s excellent ―Generation Kill mini-series). You both appeared to be excellent LTs ― back in the day.
In Exum's September 13th 2009 Washington Post review of Jon Krakauer‘s book, "Where Men Win Glory – The Odyssey of Pat Tillman", Andrew Exum dismissed the notion of a conspiracy to cover-up Pat Tillman‘s friendly fire death and excused the actions by his fellow Ranger officers as a "gross error of judgment" (General McChrystal was not mentioned at all). However, Exum failed to disclose his close personal and professional ties with McChrystal which created a serious conflict of interest.
On November 1st 2009 "Meet the Press, (and his October 14th 2009 "Daily Beast" article) Jon Krakauer accused General McChrystal of lying about his central role in the Army‘s cover-up of Pat Tillman‘s friendly-fire death. In response, Andrew Exum posted, "On Martial Virtue … and Selling Jon Krakauer‘s Crappy New Book," writing,"Stan McChrystal stands out as … probably the least culpable guy in Tillman‘s chain of command … Stan McChrystal is one of the finest men I have ever known, and I hope I have sons who serve under men like him."
I had believed that Andrew Exum and CNAS were part of the bipartisan "conspiracy" that has protected General McChrystal and that Exum wrote his book review to whitewash General McChrystal‘s role. But, perhaps, Andrew Exum is awfully good at feigning self- righteous outrage or is woefully (and willfully) ignorant of the most basic facts of the Tillman case. It‘s possible Exum believes his own bullshit about General McChrystal. As the saying goes, "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it."
Regardless, both Exum and CNAS obviously had personal and professional conflicts of interests with Exum writing a book review that whitewashed the Army and General McChrystal. Clearly, despite (or because of) his background as an Army Ranger officer in Afghanistan, he was a poor choice to review Jon Krakauer‘s book. Apparently Exum hasn‘t forgotten lessons learned from his stint as an Army journalist. In"This Man‘s Army" he wrote,
"When reporting as a "journalist‘" for the army, you quickly learn there is no news but good news. … I put my Ivy League English degree to use writing shallow propaganda. … I made it a game to see just how falsely positive I could be. … At the end of the summer, the Dept of Public Affairs in Washington DC named me one of the army‘s 'Outstanding Journalists' … I had earned my first medal from the army for writing in a newspaper."
I‘m disappointed by the lack of integrity displayed by Exum‘s involvement in the Tillman cover- up. Perhaps that‘s to be expected once you leave your uniform behind, become a "suit" and become part of the politics of Washington. As Exum wrote in his book, "… officers are often looking out for their own futures rather than for the safety and good of their men."
So much for your Marines Corp‘s motto of ―semper fidelis and Exum‘s Ranger Creed "Never shall I fail my comrades!" Neither you nor Exum have had the back of the Tillman family.
Has anyone verified this
Has anyone verified this speech as being givwn when and where people said it was? Frankly, I'm incredulous.
Give him credit for making
Give him credit for making the speech so soon after his son's death. But, this whole "they hate us because of who we are" thing is troubling coming from someone so high up the officer chain.
Steve
As a serving hyphenated
As a serving hyphenated (latin-american) multi cultural kid (TCK to be specific) this is an incredibly offensive speech. I serve because I choose to and I do not look with disdain upon the loyal opposition. I protect their freedom to advocate a change in policy just as much as I protect my family from another 9/11. Thank god that I never had to work for a General that had such disregard for people that do not agree with his world view.
Yet another example why the GO/FO corps is in dire need of reform.
All that being said, no man should live to bury his children. My heart goes out to him and I have to wonder if this was a way to lash out at those who thought that his child died in vain.
Minor Type: "Long Islaned" in
Minor Type: "Long Islaned" in paragraph 11 from the bottom should be "Long Island"
It's quite strange that since
It's quite strange that since 9/11 that generals as a class seem to have grown more exalted. Although they were able to pound 4th and 5th rate forces that stood against their air power beyond that they have proven themselves quite incompetent. Hence the continual refrain that 'there is no military solution" and the steady moving of any sort of completion date for operations to move to the right by years at a time.
Iraq turned into a debacle in which the primary initial war aims have not been executed. In fact things- Iran's influence and the existence in numbers in Iraq of jihadis- is worse- despite thousands of casualties and over a trillion $ spent.
In Afghanistan they have been unable to organize, train and equip competent Afghan security forces. They have been unable to pacify the country despite having millions of troops and trillions of dollars available to take on a rabble equipped with light weapons.
It's long time since when it should be acknowledged that the generals and the rest of the governments senior security management are guessing.
Comment by Visitor on
Comment by Visitor on November 23, 2010 - 8:27pm
"We Marines believe that God gave America the greatest gift he could bestow to man while he lived on this earth—freedom."
But apparently not enough freedom to be an atheist.
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Haha...good point. I stopped believing in God the first Sunday I went to church at Parris Island. Our platoon was actually all forced to attend a religious services by our on-again-off-again alcoholic Senior Drill Instructor, who said he found God. Because of that, we were all forced to attend services, no option out.
You know, some jar-head's like tattoos, listening to Danzig, shooting guns, getting shot at and blowing shit up.... Some just enjoy the way of life the military offers and they enjoy helping those around them, ultimately being part of a family, something larger than themselves. God has nothing to do with it... but... it can't hurt believing in something....perhaps you should be agnostic?
Haha,so good idea,if i want
Haha,so good idea,if i want to join,can you get me?
vist me led tube
I swear Marines would suck
I swear Marines would suck their own dicks if they could. I have never seen a group more self-congratulating and selfish in sharing praise than the Marines. A cursory mention of soldiers, airmen, whatever, doesn't win me over. Army has been doing shit since day one, Marines just have better PR.
My sympathies for the general's loss, however.
-Deus Ex
" We Marines believe that God
" We Marines believe that God gave America the greatest gift he could bestow to man while he lived on this earth—freedom. We also believe he gave us another gift nearly as precious—our soldiers, sailors, airmen, Coast Guardsmen, and Marines—to safeguard that gift and guarantee no force on this earth can every steal it away. "
Jeebus. When I get home from Andalucia Im going to send you "Hocus Pocus" by Kurt Vonnegut as a wedding-present, Andrew. US exceptionalism, a chosen destiny, a definition of the conflict as a existential defense of the homeland when we all know it was a bullshit moneygrab, and a view of militarism straight outta some bullshit McArthurspeech all in two paragraphs. Vonnegut would love this character.
Why is an American target
Why is an American target defended only by a serpentine that a truck can accelerate through and a few men with small arms....?
As opposed to a barrier that actually stops the vehicle and a charge that could blow it to kingdom come at the push of a button?
You want my son.... so he can get assigned to stop an explosive laden truck with a rifle?
I canned a military career because of this kind of chain of command.
Why is an American target
Why is an American target defended only by a serpentine that a truck can accelerate through and a few men with small arms....?
As opposed to a barrier that actually stops the vehicle and a charge that could blow it to kingdom come at the push of a button?
You want my son.... so he can get assigned to stop an explosive laden truck with a rifle?
I canned a military career because of this kind of chain of command.
Semper Fidelis. And RIP.
Semper Fidelis. And RIP.
I find troubling the contempt
I find troubling the contempt shown (eg the phrase "chattering classes") for other Americans who may love their country just as much, but differ on the nature of the threat and how best to deal with it. Someone at this rank who suggests that disagreements over national policy are the same as contempt for those in the military who carry it out, does not understand what he swore to defend, and ought not to be where he is.
Y'all, His son is 4 days
Y'all,
His son is 4 days dead. I wonder if they had even buried him yet? Doubtful. Cut the man some slack.
And the phrase "chattering classes" normally refers to the press, pundits, - that is chattering away on the TV. And they do chatter away, now don't they?
He may have earned the right to be annoyed.
Speaking of which - can we stop the McChrystal "cover up" stalking? It was an ongoing investigation into a Blue on Blue death (had that been totally established at the time - even?) GEN McChrystal has no place spilling the beans before the Investigation establishes the facts. The Pope's big sin is that he warned his superiors it might have been a fratricide? That's a cover up?!? BTW You're not supposed to comment on ongoing Investigations. No doubt if he had, he would have been accused of unlawful Command Influence, or who knows what.
Mr Visitor Guy - if you love Justice so much don't ever sit on a Jury . You're about angry enuf for 12 men on your very own.
This is flat-out nauseating
This is flat-out nauseating and represents, far better than anything I could ever write, what is wrong with us, our officer corps, and our foreign policy. I'm sorry this man lost his son, but that is in no way any excuse for this garbage.
@Elf. I would suggest
@Elf. I would suggest learning something about the Tillman story before offering commentary based merely upon your uninformed opinion.
If you don't want to read my material at my feral firefighter blog (which has ample links and quotes from the source material), try Mary Tillman's "Boots on the Ground by Dusk (2008; 2010 paperback with new foreword at blurb.com), the documentary "The Tillman Story" (tries to cover a lot of ground, a bit easy on the Democratic Congress), or Jon Krakauer's "Where Men Win Glory" (revised paperback added 50 new pages expanding on the Army's cover-up, especially McChrystal's role).
Krakauer's book is a flawed biography; he lost the trust of the Tillman family (only Tillman's widow Marie contributed to the book) and totally let the Democratic Congress of the hook. But his book does a decent job of describing the friendly-fire incident and the Army's portion of the cover-up.
Angry? Perhaps so. There's no "semper fi" in the senior leadership of the miltary or this country.
"Y'all, His son is 4 days
"Y'all, His son is 4 days dead. I wonder if they had even buried him yet? Doubtful. Cut the man some slack."
Less about the man who spoke the words than the "expert" who in the cool light of day chose to publish another man's arguments founded in no more than loss and rage. The publication is an obscenity. If it's true that the Marine code is nothing more than this fascist mythologizing, I fear for the country. The author of this page and his friends, are more of a danger to this country than Al Qaeda. Fascists are weak men with big guns.
What a bunch of no-class
What a bunch of no-class assholes. Judging by the above comments, I bet a speech from Baitullah Mehsud would have received a far greater reception from the Abu Muqawama blog.
To the above - I would expect
To the above -
I would expect Mr. Mehsud to be self-aggrandizing, divisive, chauvinistic, and narrow-minded. I expect much better from my chain of command.
To the above - I would expect
To the above -
I would expect Mr. Mehsud to be self-aggrandizing, divisive, derisive, and chauvinistic. I expect much better from my senior officers.
Very moving tribute to these
Very moving tribute to these men. Reminds me how important this fight really is. I get choked up reading stories like this, seeing the photos of men who have died. It is truly heartbreaking.
However, the next time some politician asks the people of this country for their consent to send the best of our population to give their lives for our freedom, I would appreciate it if they would actually give us the real reason for the sacrifice for which they ask. Don't give us some fucking bullshit about WMD, and Iraqi connections to al Queda, and then tell us later that it doesn't matter what we were told were the original reasons, but in the end we did a good thing for Iraq. Fuck that. In this country, the people decide when to send their sons to war, and that decision must be based on the fucking truth. The fact that the invasion of Iraq was based on lies shows complete disrespect for the people who fought, and the families who voted to send them.
Someday, those who lied us into this war will go meet their god. I hope these two marines are waiting for them at the gate. And I hope they kick their sorry fucking asses.
Rich S: Amen to that. Amen to
Rich S: Amen to that. Amen to that indeed.
Not only was Iraq an ilegal
Not only was Iraq an ilegal occupation -there was no strong alQaida organization there until after we invaded. And it appears that the only real winner stratgically from this illegal occupation is Iran.
Iraq is an illegal occupation
Iraq is an illegal occupation . There was no real presence in Iraq of al Qaida until after we invaded Iraq. The only real strategic winner so far benefitting from our illegal occuppation of Iraq is Iran. Our Services Members deserve Civilan leadership that does not send them in harms way based on lies and falsehoods.
And -while I have never worn
And -while I have never worn the uniform - but as a taxpayer - it seems to me that we face some of the same dilemmas in AfPak as we do still
in Mesopatemia - ie how was that that an imposter posing as a Senior Taliban leader could spoof us into giving him money and a free ride home in exchange for the imposters help in 'reconciling ' with the insurgents ? Is it this kind of intelligence vaccum that lead to the six American trainers being killed by the Afghanistan police trainee?
Again as a taxpayer why can't we just kill the al Qaida and other affiliates in AfPAk now - and come home ?
I think he mentioned "the
I think he mentioned "the chattering class" in his speech, because he knew a bunch of you chatterboxes would comment about each and every thing you think is wrong. And please, those of you who say "first off I'm sorry for his son's loss", and then go on to criticize him, you don't even think twice about his son's loss. You aren't sorry. You just say that so you can seem somewhat polite with your rude comments.
The speech was great. The
The speech was great. The general was spot on, and I'd bet his credentials against any one of his detractors here, by a long way. I thank God that folks like him are willing to protect me and my loved ones, and that I'm not stuck counting on those of you who are trying so hard to pick him apart - I can just imagine how safe and secure we'd be in your hands.
This comment is perhaps
This comment is perhaps indicative of the cognative dissonance experienced by many of our countrymen:
"It is a fact that our country today is in a life and death struggle against an evil enemy,"
Actually its not. The idea that a bunch of illiterate peasants armed with 1950's era weapons are some sort of existential threat to the US is preposterous. They are a nuisance, nothing more and the generals who insist on exaggerating the threat they pose are doing a disservice to the country. It will hard for many to accept but the thousands of casualties and trillions spent have been for nothing."
It is precisely this bunch of illiterate peasants armed with 1950a era weapons and their fellow idealogues who pose an existential threat to this nation and its people. It is they who turned commercial airliners into aerial torpedoes killing circa 3,000 innocents (some of whom were their co-religionists) and causing over one hundred billion dollars in economic damage on signle beauteful day in September.
Where did the perpetrators train? Where did they find succor and sustenance as they plotted their deeds? Where did they find the spiritual environment in which their plans were blessed and condoned? There is a single answer to these questions: Among a "bunch of illiterate peasants armed with 1950a era weapons" [sic]. Anyone who thinks that we would be better off ignoring the illiterate peasants ignores the fact that ignoring them is precisely the root cause of our finding ourselves where we do.
I for one am truly grateful that we have men like LtGEN Kelly, his son and thousands of their colleagues who understand the threat and who are willing to pick up a weapon and stand a post in my protection. My family has the liberty to grow, enjoy the fruits of its labors and a life together because of them. As they remain Semper Fiedlis to us, we dishonor ourselves if we fail to be Semper Fidelis to them.
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How is it possible for the
How is it possible for the people criticizing this man, mocking him and our nation, to be ignorant to the fact that Muslims have being trying to spread Islam by the sword since it's inception. MUSLIMS invaded Europe twice! The Crusaders who have been falsely villianized as the aggressors, only fought muslims to reopen the passage way to Antioch and Jerusalem so that Christians could safely make their pilgrimage. Islam to this day is taught to be spread by the sword, and for all other belief systems to convert to Islam or bow to it as second class citizens. Islam needs to be stood up to by the Western world for the sake of our own survival. All you blame America first weaklings are not weighing the fact that every country in the world makes moves for it's own benefit, not just America. If somebody walked up and punched you in the face, would you just sit there and analyze why he did that, and then explain it to yourself that it must have been because you possibly slighted him in some way earlier? You probably would, because you are leaf-eating weaklings, and you want everyone else around you to be weak because you are to scared to stand up for yourself and fight. Oh yeah, it's America's fault, those oil rich muslim countries have it so bad, boo-hoo, they're trillionaires, how rude of us. As far as Iraq, none of you know jackshit. We new Iraq had WMD because we sold it to them! And they used WMD on the Iranians and Kurds. The whole world thought they had WMD including the Clinton administration, shut up already! Whether Saddam hid them, sold them, or destroyed them, we had to find out! Like NATO or the UN with their endless posturing and paper tiger tough talk were going to get to the bottom of it. Yeah right. We are trying to bring the muslim world out of the darkness one country at a time, if we really wanted to be the bad guy as most of the people commentating here would suggest, we would just go in and exterminate the whole populace! We spend billions of dollars on precision weapons research to prevent innocent loss of life, no one else in the world even comes close to us in that endeavor! 90% of the people posting comments here are exactly the kind of people the General is making a point about, selfish weaklings who have the luxury of hiding behind the strong and criticizing everything while being oblivious to your blessings, paid for in blood by better men than you'll ever be!
I just read this article
I just read this article which took all of my resolve to read. It hurt to read this and just as much so during 9/11. I was at home at the time when I was told not to come to work at military base. I'm also on active duty until I retired Oct 93. Was in Middle East during Desert Shield/Storm 9 Aug 1990 until 6 March 1991. There's so many incidents over years, one must think, especially when you're on active duty as military member. Give thanks for what you have and throw your selfishness out the door. Thank you, retired Air Force member.
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