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Rick Perry on Israel and the Palestinians

I hate digging deep into issues related to Israel and the Palestinians, but since this is the hardest statement on foreign policy yet issued by the Perry campaign, here we go:

Thank you. Let me begin by thanking Dr. Solomon Frager and Aron Hirtz for helping us organize this press conference today.

 

I am joined today by a diverse group of Jewish leaders from here and abroad who share my concern that the United Nations could take action this week to legitimize the Palestinian gambit to establish statehood in violation of the spirit of the 1993 Oslo Accords.

This diverse group of Jewish leaders included at least two Israelis, Danny Danon and Pesach Lerner, who do not support the two-state solution championed most notably in the 1993 Oslo Accords. The former, who preceded Gov. Perry at the lecturn, apparently used his opportunity to praise the hilltop settlers in "Judea and Samaria" -- more commonly known as "the Occupied Palestinian Territories." Why is there no penalty for fraternizing with Israeli extremists?

We are indignant that certain Middle Eastern leaders have discarded the principle of direct negotiations between the sovereign nation of Israel and the Palestinian leadership, and we are equally indignant that the Obama Administration’s Middle East policy of appeasement has encouraged such an ominous act of bad faith.

Who, exactly, has been appeased is left unspoken.

Simply put, we would not be here today at the precipice of such a dangerous move if the Obama Policy in the Middle East wasn’t naïve, arrogant, misguided and dangerous.

 

It must be said, first, that Israel is our oldest and strongest democratic ally in the Middle East and has been for more than 60 years. The Obama Policy of moral equivalency, which gives equal standing to the grievances of Israelis and Palestinians, including the orchestrators of terrorism, is a dangerous insult.

I cannot find an instance in which any mainstream U.S. politician, let alone a member of this administration (in which Dennis Ross and Joe Biden are employed), has given equal standing to the grievances of the Israeli and Palestinian people -- much less orchestrators of terrorism. (Although both Menachem Begin and Yassir Arafat -- both terrorists by any shared definition of the word, both also recipients of the Nobel Peace Prize -- have been received at the White House.)

There is no middle ground between our allies and those who seek their destruction. America should not be ambivalent between the terrorist tactics of Hamas and the security tactics of the legitimate and free state of Israel.

I agree.

By proposing ‘indirect talks” through the U.S. rather than between Palestinian leaders and Israel, this administration encouraged the Palestinians to shun direct talks.

 

Second, it was wrong for this Administration to suggest the 1967 borders should be the starting point for Israeli-Palestinian negotiations.

The bit about the 1967 borders has been the policy of every U.S. administration dating back to Sec. of State William Rogers. (I should also note the United States was a signatory to UNSCR 242 in 1967.) Here is a great history of U.S. involvement in negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians that someone on the Perry campaign should read.

When you consider this suggestion was made on the eve of the Israeli Prime Minister’s visit, we see in this American Administration a willingness to isolate a close ally and to do so in a manner that is insulting and naïve.

I understand, though, why the border issue chafes some Israelis. The Israelis -- especially this government -- view borders as the issue on which Israel must compromise, much as the right of return is the issue on which Palestinians must compromise. The Netanyahu administration does not want to talk about the former in isolation of the latter.

Third, by injecting the issue of 1967 borders in addition to a construction freeze in East Jerusalem and Israeli settlements, the Obama Administration has put Israel in a position of weakness and taken away their flexibility to offer concessions as part of the negotiation process.

I actually think Perry is right that the Obama Administration was wrong to focus on settlements, though perhaps not for the reasons he thinks.

Indeed, bolstered by the Obama Administration’s policies and apologists at the U.N., the Palestinians are exploiting the instability in the Middle East hoping to achieve their objective without concessions or direct negotiations with Israel.

No, the Palestinians have simply lost faith in the ability of the United States to deliver Israeli concessions and believe they are dealing with the most extreme Israeli government in the history of the Jewish State. We have polling data, in fact, that support this.

The reason is simple: if they perceive they can get what they want from the U.N. without making any concessions why should they negotiate with Israel?

 

While the administration is right to finally agree to fight the Arab resolution at the U.N., it bears repeating that we wouldn’t be here today if they had stuck to some basic principles concerning Palestinian statehood:

 

First, Palestinian leaders must publicly affirm Israel’s right to exist, and to exist as a Jewish state;

Agreed.

Second, President Abbas must persuade all factions including Hamas to renounce acts of terrorism and release kidnapped Israeli Gilad Shalit, and;

President Abbas is going to have a tough time convincing Hamas to do much of anything, though this is a reasonable demand, of course, of Israelis to the Palestinian people.

Third, Palestinian statehood must be established only through direct negotiations between the Palestinian leadership and the nation of Israel.

Sure.

By not insisting on these principles, the Obama Administration has appeased the Arab Street at the expense of our own national security interests.

I would say that the administration has some way to go if its goal is to appease the Arab Street. Has Rick Perry spoken with anyone on a street (hell, any street) in the Arabic-speaking world about U.S. policy?

They have sowed instability that threatens the prospects of peace.

 

Israel’s security is critical to America’s security.

This highly debatable. To say the least. There are a lot of good reasons to support our Israeli friends, but most national security analysts are not convinced by this particular argument.

We must not forget it was Israel that took out the nuclear capabilities of Iraq in 1981 and Syria in 2007. In both instances, their actions made the free world safer.

Yes, they did. I'll agree with that.

Today, the greatest threat to the security of Israel and, by extension, a threat to America, is the Iranian government developing a nuclear arsenal. One thing is clear: we must stop Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons. Economic sanctions must be tightened and increased and all options must remain on the table to stop a brutally repressive regime from acquiring a nuclear capability.

This is what is so puzzling about the Netanyahu government, because it certainly feels this way, too, but if this is the case, why has it continually picked fights with the one power on Earth that can help it out on Iran? 

To date, we have fumbled our greatest opportunity for regime change. As average Iranian citizens were marching on Tehran in the Green Revolution in 2009, America was wasting precious time on a naïve policy of outreach to both the Iranian and Syrian governments.

Maybe. I'll let this pass, but I want to know what America should have done differently.

Who knows what the leadership of Iran would look like today if America had done everything in its power to provide diplomatic and moral support to encourage the growing movement of dissidents who sought freedom.

Again, what would have made a difference in Iran in 2009? What could the United States have done that would have tipped the scales in favor of the dissidents? Military power? What?

Our actions in recent years have destabilized the Middle East. We have been complacent in encouraging revolt against hostile governments in Iran and Syria and we have been slow to recognize the risks posed by the new regime in Egypt and the increasingly strained relationship between Israel and Turkey.

 

It is vitally important for America to preserve alliances with moderate Muslim regimes and Muslim leaders who seek to preserve peace and stability in the region. But today, neither adversaries nor allies alike, know where America stands.

Who, I want to know, are the moderate Muslims? Are they the traditional U.S. allies in the Gulf or the Turks? The Saudis or the Egyptians?

Our muddle of a foreign policy has created greater uncertainty in the midst of the “Arab Spring.” And our policy of isolating and undermining Israel has only encouraged our adversaries in their aggression.

This administration has done a lot wrong. But it has never undermined Israel. It has consistently had Israel's back on everything from closer military cooperation and security guarantees to votes among international organizations like the United Nations. 

With the end-run on Palestinian statehood imminent before the U.N., America must act swiftly.

 

First, every nation within the U.N. must know America stands with Israel and the Oslo accord principle of direct negotiations without equivocation.

I think they are all already painfully clear on this.

Second, America must make it clear that a declaration of Palestinian Statehood in violation of the spirit of the Oslo accords could jeopardize our funding of U.N. operations.

 

Third, the Palestinians must know their gambit comes with consequences in particular that America will have to reconsider the $4 billion in assistance we have provided to the Palestinians over the last 17 years.

I think this would be a poor decision. Go ask any Israeli military commander in the West Bank for his opinion of U.S.-trained Palestinian police forces and you will understand one reason why.

Fourth, we should close the PLO office in Washington if the U.N. grants the standing of a Palestinian state.

Silly.

And fifth, we must signal to the world, including nations like Turkey and Egypt whom we have considered allies in recent years, that we won’t tolerate aggression against Israel.

Agreed. Although I do not think either nation has been contemplating any military action against the Jewish state.

Israel is our friend and ally. I have traveled there several times, and met with its leaders. It is not a perfect nation, but its existence is critical to America’s security in the world.

Again, I am not sure I have ever bought this argument. I would want to hear more from some of Israel's staunchest defenders as to why this is the case, because I am open to hearing other perspectives here.

It is time to change our policy of appeasement toward the Palestinians to strengthen our ties to the nation of Israel, and in the process establish a robust American position in the Middle East characterized by a new firmness and a new resolve.

Well, our position will certainly be robust in one nation. Maybe not so robust in all the other countries.

If America does not head off the aggression of forces hostile to Israel we will only embolden them.

 

That would be a tragic mistake.

On that we can agree. I am not sure I bought much of anything in this argument, though.

Israel, Palestine

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What an idiot. The PLO has

What an idiot. The PLO has actually recognized Israel (albeit not as a "Jewish state", for good reason), and currently isn't shooting at Israelis on occasion. And Perry wants to yank their funding and cut-off all contact with them? It sounds like an ingenious way to help Hamas and de-stabilize the "two state" faction among the Palestinians at the same time.

Andrew, check out this

Andrew, check out this polling data on public opinion polls taken of ordinary Iranians in Iran after the '09 election (dots removed in the URL to bypass any anti-spam filtering):

www docstoc com/docs/65872019/Iran-Public-Opinion-2010

www worldpublicopinion org/pipa/articles/brmiddleeastnafricara/652.php?lb=brme&pnt=652&nid=&id=

Five polls taken by US and Canadian polling outfits provide results that mirror the results of the '09 election, supporting the legitimacy of the official results.

And, by a 3:1 margin, Iranians inside Iran support security and police efforts against the post-election protesters.

Now I know there's a lot of "analysis by wishful thinking" here in the U.S. (and apparently in Israel, too). But the notion that Iran's form of government, warts and all, is totally unpopular among a sold majority of Iranians inside Iran is not supported by a number of indicators, including credible polls with scientifically applied methodologies.

What has the Israelis so worked up about Iran is not that deliberately mistranslated quote that's continuously trumpeted in the MSM and elsewhere (proper translation being: "the Imam said that this regime occupying Jerusalem (een rezhim-e eshghalgar-e qods) must [vanish from] the page of time (bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad), referring to other regimes that have vanished such as the Shah's Iran and Apartheid South Africa). What really has the Israelis steamed (although they'll never admit it), is Iran's single state solution proposal where the Palestine/Israel issue is settled by referendum held within the entire disputed territory of Israel/Palestine, and in which all are given the right to vote including jews, muslims, christians, druze, etc, including Palestinians currently located in the region's scattered refugee camps. Basically the Iranian plan is similar to the referendum plan that did away with Apartheid South Africa. You won't even hear an Israeli leader breathe a mention of such a fair and just solution.

Right now, it's all about

Right now, it's all about votes. With the organizational skills and amount of Jews who vote in New York and USA, this won't go far.

Why Rick Perry was brought into this discussion is questionable.

Why don't we ask the guy in charge now, why he's not making positive decisions or showing support, just like President Bill Clinton did when he was in office?

Why the sudden 180 degree flip on the party line?

Whoever wants to be our next President, will continue with our current policy and pass on this nightmare. The rest of it will just be a lot of hot air. Just like the War on Terror. Nothing to see here, move along. No one is going to make any positive changes.

With little violence occurring in Israel ...it is hard not to give this some consideration.

East Timor solidarity movement got a lot more movement and attention than this topic. Why is that?

>Basically the Iranian plan

>Basically the Iranian plan is similar to the referendum plan that did away with Apartheid South Africa. You won't even hear an Israeli leader breathe a mention of such a fair and just solution.

But why? Don't they want their country to turn into today's South Africa?

Has the current

Has the current administration developed a workable solution? It does not sound like it. Someone is going to the UN and the administration has its pants around its ankles.

Obama has a credibility problem. Palestinians have a credibility problem. Israel has a hard line, I really do not blame them for it (Sometime they go too far. Then again Palestinians back track too much. Arafat was king at it.).

Personally , I think the Palestinians are getting smarter. If they get State status, maybe they can hire some Jewish Lawyers to put their case to the International Court. It will work against the Palestinians to have State status cause they will have to move further away from violence. Terrorist tactics and lobbing rockets into populated areas are not exactly supported by international law. The UN can apply sanctions.

Obama has a problem in that he tries to keep neutral by giving both sides of an issue lip service. An example is the kick off speech at West Point for the Afghan surge. He had America both staying and going at once. In good times you can get away with that. Problem is, he does it with the economy, war, and health care. All have backfired on him. That is a poor track record and hence the credibility problem.

America's policy with Israel has always been so tight that light will not shine between us. This is what Perry is reconfirming. Obama's actions with Israel, Palestine, Arab countries a have told a different view. This is what the American Jews in Wiener's old district responded to when they elected a Republican Catholic who ran on Obama's Israel FP. Enough light was cast on their ballot they saw the future. Taking two stances to have one or the other as a back up so you can say you said one thing or the other only works for so long.

Obama is in a pickle cause a NO vote on Palestine Statehood at the UN is going to make his Egypt speech look like his Peace Prize, a little limp.

BTW....We were suppose to pull troops out of Afghanistan Jul11 per the West Point speech. Looks like the Taliban have a different schedule (exploding turbines, I can see the youtube funnies now). These guys and AQ have always mirrored the US. We kill their leaders, they kill the leaders in Afghanistan. When will we learn.

Convenient that Mullen and Gates retired before the 18 months were up. Mighty nice beds they made, should be in the mid to high six-figures. Make their pensions dependent on the game, you will get a different outcome.

You are a bright light in a

You are a bright light in a very dark room. Thanks for the Post.

"Has the current administration developed a workable solution? "

They are thinking election, when they should be thinking "Spike Lee" - Do The Right Thing. Unfortunately, It's the story of Radio Raheem playing out in real life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_tLH1ver6M&feature=related

It's always interesting when

It's always interesting when Exum reluctantly (I picture a belabored *sigh*) finds the time to do his Democrat partisan chores by highlighting some particularly low-hanging fruit from the other side of the aisle.

Mr. 57 states and company certainly put enough easily picked apart "redmeat for the base" out there as well. However, funnily enough, it's always the supposedly 'high brow' navel gazing/insider baseball type policies that get dissected on that end.

Then again, I also remember the entire run-up to the 2008 election, when CNAS as a whole was benignly described in most news reports as a non-partistan 'centrist' organization. Even though it wasn't difficult for "insiders" who knew it's contributors to predict on what side of the aisle they'd come down on most issues. 3 years later you don't see that description quite as much anymore. I guess journalists aren't quite as dumb as they seem, or even they couldn't quite keep up the appearance anymore.

Eh, hacks be hackin.

Perhaps unsurprisingly, Ricks

Perhaps unsurprisingly, Ricks is another high performer in the art of strategic pedantry.

Um, Compare. Maybe you

Um, Compare. Maybe you missed it, but we have actually begun drawing down in Afghanistan. We've lowered our force caps and started pulling enablers. It's a slow drawdown, by design. And, why is it the American presidents "job" to develop a workable solution?

Slow? Any slower and I'll be

Slow? Any slower and I'll be collecting social security. Then again, no I won't, Boss screwed the pooch on that too.

Special Forces in Iraq and Afghanistan should stay, no matter what, right up to the end.

Monkey, do you have any figures on total numbers of personnel leaving the war zone's per month? We don't need specifics on locations or FOB's.

(leans-in and smell's Monkey) - Monkey are you using Slider's deodorant?

Capt. Monkey on September 21,

Capt. Monkey on September 21, 2011 - 9:24am

It's a slow drawdown, by design. And, why is it the American presidents "job" to develop a workable solution?

Response: Cause Obama is the Commander and Chief and 100% responsible for Foreign Policy per the Constitution. I can not think of a better reason other than he gets $400,000/yr for the rest of his life for doing it.

The Obama draw down was left open ended. The leaders responsible for the plan execution retired (that is a vote of confidence). The stake in the ground is 2014, even that is soft. Foreign aid will be applied for years after. Troops have been pulled out, I have not been sleeping. One person on the DOD payroll meets Obama's requirements for a draw down, yet we are no closer to a winning strategy. I think the exploding Turban has proven our enemy's ideology.

This was in today's news....

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405311190410670457658301292307663...

There was also an article in Politico that included a drone base in the Arab Pensacola and in Ethiopia.

If Iraq was an expansion of the WOT, something that I do not believe cause of the NFZ had been going on for years, expanded drone bases are an escalation of the war. Remember the left's anti-war chant against Bush, "We are just making more terrorists!". The definition of the war was changed by this administration to be a "regional conflict" at the beginning of Obama's Presidency which enabled the killing of UBL, by the definition of regional, we started increasing not decreasing efforts. This is pure Obamaism, redefine the conflict "regional" and then point to a slow down in Afghanistan a "draw down" of the conflict while escalating the war regionally.

The real problem is, all of America's discretionary spending is borrowed. Obama also wants to expand the economy by half a trillion, buying jobs at $200,000 a pop.

http://wimp.com/budgetcuts/

Here is the real problem that I think that both Republicans and Democrats can relate to. How strong is a country that can not generate jobs for its young people and take care of its Senior's? Greece BBQ's its old.

The time has come to choose.

We need a war strategy that is well defined and executable. One that does not leave government corruption unaddressed. Karsai is not any closer to being a credible leader. Somalia has no government to speak of hasn't for years. Yemen is not looking to good for leadership. Egypt is still deciding. Libya is a wild card. America's strategy is to buy loyalty.

Can you see the future? No workable strategy? It is time stop the double speak and be honest and clear.

I am not saying that Perry is the answer, at least I can understand what the heck he means and where he is leading us to. Even if it is wrong, I know how to decide in 2012.

BTW....Obama is looking more like Clinton (bill) every day. Clinton liked to shake his bony finger at Americans.

We are smarter than we look. Lecture is over.

Sorry...Captain...Visitor on

Sorry...Captain...Visitor on September 21, 2011 - 11:02am was Compare.....

One thing to ask yourself. Is the US any closer to winning today in Afghanistan as it was in 2009 ?

That is the one liner that makes people think.

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Compare- Sorry, mate. I

Compare-
Sorry, mate. I muddled two thoughts together. I agree that the drawdown is absolutely the CinC's responsibility. I was questioning why it is that a Palestine-Israel agreement is his responsibility. I guess it depends on if you think that an American-Israeli alliance is critical to our national defense. I'm with Ex. I'm not convinced that it is. I think we've supported them on moral grounds and should continue to do so. But if we're going to bring morality into the argument, then we should also support Palestine (although, I'm still not over some of those incredibly terrifying cartoons of Palestinian kids pledging death to Mickey Mouse). Nevertheless, I think it's the responsibility of the Israelis and Palestinians to figure it out. We're just helping.

I don't think the question should be: " Is the US any closer to winning today in Afghanistan as it was in 2009 ?" That's awfully close to Reagan's "Are you better off now than four years ago?" The real question is: "Are we closer to winning today in Afghanistan than we would be had we NOT taken the COIN/surge/whatever strategy that we took in 2009?" I think the answer is yes, but I'm not certain.

Despite several spectacular attacks over the summer, the insurgency/enemy/dushmen/whatever are trending towards being less effective this year. The total number of killed in Afghanistan this year will probably be somewhat higher than 2009, AND also somewhat lower than in 2010. http://icasualties.org/oef/ That COULD be a promising sign. I'm not sure. What is very interesting is that there have been more IEDs this year than last, but they're less effective. I assure this is not because there are more route clearance patrols. Just the opposite. The 2nd EN BN recently left with no backfill, leaving a net loss of around 5-7 RCPs in theater starting in May. Does that mean we're closer to success? Maybe? Maybe not. I'm not really sure. I'm not positive but the 1-133 IN BN may be getting curtailed and leaving theater earlier than 12 months. They do not have a backfill. In short, I don't have monthly figures. Just some anecdotal observations. And while we're not necessarily closer to winning than we were in 2009, I feel we probably are closer than we would have been following the same tack.

Sorry, probably rambly and incoherent. It is nuianced and I don't know all the answers. Time will tell, I guess.
//Monkey

Based on these empty

Based on these empty comments, Perry seems like the type of candidate that would take a lot of the "experts" he surrounds himself with at their word. I don't understand how anyone who has followed this administration's policy toward Israel to a respectable degree can think that they are undermining them in any way. Say what you want about how you think Obama actually "feels" about Israel, the actions of this administration have shown nothing but unconditional support for them, and recently, contempt for Palestine's ambitions. Cutting their aid, as well as UNESCO's funding, as punishment, was a terrible move, and only opens the door for more extremist elements to stick their heads in.

Israel where there is no

Israel where there is no constitution and no borders until this time, and you know the Jews they nationalistic and know the Jews they religion as it denies the right of the Palestinian people for statehood and prevent Palestinian refugees from returning to their land and practiced racism and torture under the laws targeting indigenous Muslims and Christians of Palestine.Why not accustomed to reports United Almttio particular the report of the United Nations for Human Rights in Palestine and which codifies the reality here.
In Palestine lived for Arabs, Muslims and Christians and Jews throughout the centuries and their relationships better than today because of Israel's policy Support from America and paid by the U.S. taxpayer.
Aid provided by America to the Arab states and Palestine are not worth a fraction of what it gets from the profits of the arms trade or oil with these countries. And help you get Israel a very large more than the assistance provided by the United States for any other country in the world.
But enough that a lot of the United Nations resolutions, Israel, America and the countries that do not exceed the number of fingers stands isolated in front of the international attitudes that tolerate of justice and freedom. How many times used its veto power?? Vito against the wishes of the peoples of the earth and their governments.

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How humans on the surface of the earth shall die for that in the future may possibly threaten the security of America or Israel, and maybe Russia or China??

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