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If it were up to me, I would get rid of all medals not related to valor or campaign-specific service. Most medals awarded for "service" -- from the Army Achievement Medal to the Meritorious Service Medal -- seem like trinkets most often given based on the rank of the awardee on completion of a duty assignment rather than any activity soldiers actually take pride in. Maybe I am wrong. But you see a lot of soldiers out there who look like someone has spilled fruit salad on their chests when in actuality they have merely been competent in the non-combat-related aspects of the military bureaucracy. If the Army really wanted to encourage a warrior ethos, why not scrap everything but those Army Commendation Medals, Bronze Stars, Silver Stars, etc. given for valor under fire? After all, do you ever see Gen. Dempsey sporting his AAMs? Rarely.*
Anyway, discuss this amongst yourselves in the comments.
*The first medal I ever received was an AAM for writing good press releases at U.S. Army ROTC Advanced Camp in the summer of 2000. True story. I got a medal for that. And I then had to explain all that to anyone who asked about it. Folks, I did not feel like a warrior. I felt like a clown.
Dang, you're being hard on
Dang, you're being hard on yourself. A clown? It was just an AAM - that's what they're for! "Good job. You spelled everything right, and you made us look good to the colonel."
But of course you shouldn't have felt like a warrior! Who said you should? It was for an "achievement."
My first award was an ARCOM as a PFC Army journalist on Fort Gordon, and I was certainly pleased with myself at the time. It meant, to me, that I'd impressed enough people up and down the chain of command for it not to be downgraded. My friends were impressed - nobody thought it was a joke. (the AAM I got for a week of living in a hotel during Team Spirit...okay, not so deserved).
So AAMs, ARCOMS...that's what they're for, to let junior people know they did a good job. As a journalist, or supply, or JAG clerk, or chaplains assistant, or finance, or vehicle maintenance, or weapon's repair, you can't earn an EIB or anything legitimately high-speed, so that's how you get something.
Yes, some awards are like combat patches for things like Desert Storm...easy to make fun of, but if you earned it, then wear it. If for nothing else, then for all the stuff a soldier does that gets ignored.
Medals exist for one reason –
Medals exist for one reason – to recognize an achievement. There are many actions deserving of recognition for an achievement that do not involve anything to do with a battlefield or an act of valor (hence the additional “V” device to specifically recognize acts of valor). There are many actions deserving of recognition that occur during times of (relative) peace or during humanitarian actions which would be eliminated for recognition via a medal by what you propose.
It is a basic aspect of human nature to want to be recognized for going above and beyond what is expected of you. It is also a responsibility of leadership at every level to ensure you acknowledge when your subordinates go above what is required of them to accomplish the mission, especially when that involves special circumstances (i.e. when a specific action “above and beyond” was critical to mission accomplishment, resulted in a higher level of success, etc.)
My civilian counterparts receive recognition for their exceptional performance in many ways – bonuses, letters of recognition, extra vacation time – there are a whole slew of mechanisms that companies use to reward and/or recognize the performance of their employees. In the military, we don’t get bonuses. We get medals and other awards to recognize achievements. It’s part of our shared military tradition.
If you have a problem with award inflation, then I agree with you. I think many times awards are made to recognize routine performance or an extended period of good performance (such as the notorious “end or tour” award). The solution for that is not to eliminate the awards themselves, the solution is to hold leaders accountable and ensure that medals are awarded for appropriate actions and for exceptional performance.
"After all, do you ever see
"After all, do you ever see Gen. Dempsey sporting his AAMs?"
Generals don't need to wear their "good bureaucrat" medals, because everyone knows they wouldn't be generals if they weren't good bureaucrats.
The problem isn't the award,
The problem isn't the award, but rather the process. There is no reason that CPT+ or E7+ rank should equal an automatic meritorious BSM after a single tour. MSM-level awards were somewhat starved before 9/11, therefore the wars have given fruit-salad chasers reason to make a run on them before they slow again.
In addition, you'll notice most Purple Heart recipients also receive a BSM, sometimes with V device. The vast majority of PH "earners" I know got theirs for riding in the turret of an HMMWV, not for valorous actions under fire. I know that this is highly anecdotal, but it is merely to illustrate that the V-device isn't always necessarily an indicator of heroics.
What is the difference between a "kudos" award for getting blown up and a "kudos" award for not screwing up throughout a 9-month tour?
Rule of thumb: the army with
Rule of thumb: the army with the prettier uniforms is likely to lose.
I used to work for the Awards
I used to work for the Awards and Decorations Branch at Army HRC and my experience primarily lies with unit awards (I did Campaign Participation Credits which was nice because so long as you deployed for a single day with 65% of your MTOE you got it, it was rather boolean and not subjective and didn't feel inflated). Nonetheless, when HRC was at Alexandria (i.e. when I worked there) everyone in the ADB worked in very close proximity and the person sitting directly behind me (who happens to be a good friend) was in charge of all the DSMs and senior decorations (which sometimes strayed into MSM territory). The other person that did the senior decorations I didn't like very much and didn't ever talk with her.
From my experience, I don't like the idea of getting rid of service awards but I can say that we just toss them out like candy. It seemed like every foreign officer on an exchange program got a Legion of Merit (and you could tell who was just marking time because their citation was our super generic one) and every SGM and COL+ basically got a DSM.
But my real beef is with the unit awards. Every now and then I would help out the Unit Awards teams with MUCs and VUAs which where the most inflated combat related/valor awards ever. Not to hate, but given that the MUC is traditionally for superior service for a non-line unit and we were basically issuing MUCs to every self described "best laundry battalions in the history of warfare" or VUAs for a full campaign as opposed to a single action (which is what the award was traditionally made for), I would say the grossest inflation would be in unit awards. Mainly on the grounds that it is technically a valor or combat related award being issued for the wrong reasons and outside a standard of reasonableness. It really dilutes the meaning of the award when every battalion basically is sporting a MUC.
I might actually go so far as to say that an individual was far more likely to be rejected for a CAB (if you didn't get the CAB paperwork done in theatre or 90 days after retrograde then it came to us) than a unit being rejected for a MUC.
"The vast majority of PH
"The vast majority of PH "earners" I know got theirs for riding in the turret of an HMMWV, not for valorous actions under fire."
It is no longer the Enemy Marksmanship Badge, it is the Wrong Place at the Wrong Time Badge...
This is an intriguing post.
This is an intriguing post. While I do agree that rank and bureaucracy seem to play a big role in certain award processes (such as the CPT/E-7 automatically getting BSMs for deployments), I would be hesitant to eliminate awards for service for a couple reasons. First, AAMs, and their equivalents in other branches, serve as an incentive for young enlisted soldiers to go above and beyond. I remember receiving my first AAM as an E-2 for completing a flawless IG inspection as a unit armorer. This award helped reinforce my belief that if I worked hard and showed initiative, it would be recognized. That said, I do think there would be some merit in a policy that dictates what awards you can wear after you reach a certain rank. After all, once I made E-5 and had a BSM and ARCOM with "V" those AAMs lost a majority of their initial significance to me. As far as the BSMs go, I earned one for service during my Afghanistan rotation. I was only an E-5 (one of my soldiers got one as an E-4 for getting blown up like 6 times in a Husky), so it had the same impact on me as the AAMs I earned as a private. It showed me that the Army still recognized my accomplishments, serving as a squad leader (E-6 billet) for an entire rotation as an E-5. So I do think the service awards have their purpose, but I do think some policy changes could make an impact on enhancing the warrior ethos of the military.
I think in many cases,
I think in many cases, service awards are fine. Giving a PFC an AAM for busting ass on a field problem lets the Soldier know their contribution is noticed and appreciated. That translates to morale.
What I do find absurd are rank based deployment awards. There's no reason everyone E7 and above should get a BSM for a deployment. Its BS when the E7 LNO who sits in the TOC playing Pocket Tanks 80% of every day gets a BSM while the E6 squad leader goes home with an ARCOM.
But my big problem with this debate is that this has been happening for years. At least since 2005 that I know of. But this debate was a lot less prominent in our community until here recently, when the Air Force publicly announced two BSMs for female airmen. I think that requires a bit of self reflection on our part on why we weren't outraged about this before.
If this link will work, here
If this link will work, here is another take on awards published in the Marine Corps Gazette this month: http://www.marinecorpsgazette-digital.com/marinecorpsgazette/201204?pg=7...
The author proposes keeping the awards system in place for enlised Marines, but doing away with awards for officers entirely.
Exum, every organization has
Exum, every organization has its way of marking achievement.
Many people within an organization has comments about the process.
Be glad you were recognized. In a globalized world a lot of organizations are all about, "what have you done for me lately". That is healthy for keeping the organization motivated and making money. That system does not comprehend organizational knowledge until it one day it walks out the door or is walked out the door.
Medals are a way to wear your resume on your chest. Be lot of empty space in times of peace in your system.
BTW, in war or peace everyone contributes not everyone on the front line is the hero.
Realizing total organization is the warrior ethos. No one left behind.
The warrior knows all the ways and the tools. That includes the pen. You just fought a COIN war, you should know that.
Our OIF III tour went from
Our OIF III tour went from January 2005 to January 2006. We had to submit end of tour awards for by August. The excessively detailed, and ever-changing, administrative requirements for these awards were so cumbersome that we had to begin submitting drafts in May.
There were several revisions to each submission. If you did not think that someone was deserving of an award, then the chain of command (not sure if it was BDE or DIV Co) demanded an explanation why. The default was an award on par with rank. Generally, SFC and up got BSMs. SSG and below got ARCOMs. Slight deviations upward (a BSM for an SSG, for example) were for those who actually did perform extremely well. If you thought an SFC or above only merited an ARCOM, that required an explanation, too.
Initially, I pointed out the obvious: with my crystal ball on back order from the Army supply system, I am incapable of forecasting, in May or even in August, what my Soldiers will achieve by January. Nonsense, I was told. I was promptly shouted down and told to just follow the guidance. So, I did my best to forecast achievements for all of my subordinates. In between days jam-packed with patrols, maintenance, sporadic enemy contact, generator outages, and other distractions that could be collectively referred to as "our mission," I managed to type up award packets for my subordinates.
My primary weapon system was an outdated version of FormFlow. My secondary weapon: MS Word 2000. I cannot count the number of toner cartridges and reams of paper we went through, printing out draft, after draft, after draft, after draft, from the dust-covered CP, in an abandoned building in our patrol base. Emailing drafts would have made more sense, in this otherwise senseless endeavor, but we lacked the bandwidth to email an attachment larger than a txt file. Why not use a USB stick, you ask? They were permitted back then, right? Yes. But S-1 wanted paper copies. And the XO backed up the S-1 on that. Remember, the mission is to issue awards. Degrading the insurgency was a distraction. Put down that 5988E and get back to work on that 638. Focus less on rehearsing battle drills and focus more on contriving achievements performed 5 months from now.
But, despite the lack of a crystal ball, I guess things turned out okay. My predictions turned out to be excessive for some, and too conservative for others. But, the awards were approved. It was a generous mix of BSMs and ARCOMs. Those awards really meant a lot to my Soldiers when they read what they achieved and tried to figure out when they achieved those things and/or why their actual achievements were not mentioned.
"Be lot of empty space in
"Be lot of empty space in times of peace in your system."
So?
Look at the empty space on these guys. None of them looks like a clownishly overdecorated buffoon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:General_Sir_Peter_Wall_-_official_MOD_...
http://www.la-croix.com/var/bayard/storage/images/lacroix/actualite/s-in...
http://www.army.forces.gc.ca/land-terre/images/about-sujet/bio/devlin_lg...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d0/Volker_Wieker_portrai...
Geez, even the Russkies don't have chests covered in medals any more!
http://www.publicintelligence.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/CEP20090303...
But... but... how will anyone know what their resume is? Surely their motivation is suffering!
George Marshall and Dwight
George Marshall and Dwight Eisenhower -- how much empty space on their chests? Gee, a lot.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:General_George_C._Marshall,_official_m...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:EisenhowerChiefofStaffPortrait.jpg
Just for contrast, in
Just for contrast, in civilian organizations contributions get recognized in two ways:
1) you get a note in your annual (or quarterly) review. That tells you that your boss noticed. Nobody else sees those, so it doesn't make you look good. But at least you know someone noticed and appreciated what you did.
2) you get a raise and/or promotion. (Again, the raise is invisible to anyone else.) And promotions are rarer than in the military -- which would suggest that they mean more. Except that both are heavily dependent on factors totally outside your control. And there is a perceptable difference, or maybe just a limited overlap, between those who the managers think deserves a reward and those who their peers think does a great job.
In short, the limited amount of meaning attached to medals is not so much a military problem as one which pervades all big organizations. If anybody comes up with a general solution which is actually applicable by real human beings, I suspect it will spread like wildfire. That it hasn't suggests that a solution is proving extremely hard to find.
1. Neat comments. 2. 42 years
1. Neat comments.
2. 42 years ago, SPEC 4's got end of tour ARCOMs if they didn't piss anybody off. E-5 and up got BSM. AAM's didn't exist.
3. CIB award notification was a list of names on a carbon copy posted on the 1st SGT's BBoard -outside his bunker.
4. Criteria was said to be a month in the unit on operations.
5. PH's were handed out for everything except nose bleeds. Award authority: the unit medic.
6. Awards to officers were done privately -for very sufficient reasons that don't translate well to folks serving in today's forces. A good thing.
7. Wish the admin types didn't have such a tight hold on the major awards for valor.
8. Troops need heroes -and not just an unending procession of special operations studs.
9. Guess that's a side effect of the codification and rigidity that has produced a more professional force.
10. When twilight time rolls around, the only qualification that still matters is having been there. Not as far away as you think.
"A soldier will fight long
"A soldier will fight long and hard for a bit of colored ribbon; An army's effectiveness depends on its size, training, experience, and morale, and morale is worth more than any of the other factors combined; The moral is to the physical as three to one." Maxims of Napoleon
He's no ex-CPT Andrew Exum, but Napoleon may have been onto something timeless about motivation and esprit de corps.
Just because Napoleon says
Just because Napoleon says it's so doesn't make it so. In my experience Marines smell out a BS award before it's done being read in formation. That said, the award system is bloated and well off-track. I'd be all for getting rid of peacetime awards with the exception of life saving medals. The Brits seem to have a good system focused on real ops.
My experience in chopping
My experience in chopping deployment awards packages on 3 SSN deployments has been nearly identical to that described by Visitor 4/17 1:17pm above. Preparations begin somewhere around the halfway point. A guy who did his job and didn't piss anyone off generally gets an award determined by his rank/watch stood on mission, maybe +1 or -1:
OOD/DOOW (Department Heads and senior CPOs) - NCOM
Junior officers, CPOs, E-6 - NAM
E-5/E-4 - Admiral's letter (points toward advancement)
less than E-4 - Commodore's/CO's letter (no points)
Any impact or morale effects resulted from guys not getting what they were "supposed to get," and that almost always negative.
Visitor on April 17, 2012 -
Visitor on April 17, 2012 - 2:04pm
I see your meaning. Still they are resumes all the same, be it the short form. What is a resume other than your professional accomplishments. The higher the level, the less that is volunteered on a resume which is part of the message a professional sends about their judgement.
The military functions as a whole. You might consider making the medals that you trying to get rid of mean more. How would you weigh combat awards equally with the award for a purely logistical function. Combat does not happen unless the equipment makes it to the battle.
Exum think of it this way. If your medal for press carried the weight of the Pulitzer prize would you be embarrassed to explain what it was? If the AAM was harder to get, their would be less fruit salad on the table.
It is about continuous improvement and raising the bar. Saying that you appreciate a person's accomplishment is the most valuable way to raise self-esteem. It also enables the organization to steer core capabilities.
BTW... As the wars winds down and the need for head count is reduced, I really do not think handing out medals will be the issue.
@ NS Webster, RE: "As a
@ NS Webster, RE: "As a journalist, or supply, or JAG clerk, or chaplains assistant, or finance, or vehicle maintenance, or weapon's repair, you can't earn an EIB or anything legitimately high-speed, so that's how you get something."
Though I generally agree with you, and not to be that guy, I had female motor transport mechanics and supply clerks pull shifts in the turret on my convoys, sitting behind 240s or .50 cals for hours and hours in Helmand's less pleasant corners. They got confirmed kills. One or two were even awarded for valor after they saved the life of a wrecker operator who was bleeding out from a femoral GSW, right after they made quick business of killing the insurgent responsible.
Ex, I love you, but we can't all be Rangers.
Some of us have to settle for being Marines.
From an outsider's point of
From an outsider's point of view, the preponderance of medals and ribbons in the military seems less a by-product of a diluted and bureaucratized awards system than a colorful and pretty efficient way to summarize a given person's career. In business, when you want to know the education and employment history of someone new, you meet and talk to them, you look them up on LinkedIn, or, if they're important enough, you read their bio on their company's website. Obviously this gives everyone plenty of creative license to embellish their resumes, even completely invent stuff, just to make themselves look more impressive. I could see plenty of situations where a standardized system of recognitions and acknowledgments pinned to everyone's lapel might come in handy in sizing up the quality and the qualification of the other people around you.
[As an aside, in the world of finance, I can't tell you how many times I've heard other investment bankers say that they were "intimately involved" in this or that multi-gazillion dollar merger, only to learn subsequently that their role consisted mainly of sitting in the boardroom as a well-dressed ornament, or else getting coffee for the junior guy whose own responsibility was to make photocopies for the next least junior guy. I will not suggest that military guys, as a professional class, are anywhere near as vain and self-conscious as ibankers. But I am guessing that they *do* tend to share the quality of an aggressive, ambitious personality and therefore are a little prone to bragging, whether or not they are aware of it.]
Separately, someone else on here mentioned that in the civilian world, for doing good work you get stuff like cash or stock bonuses, signed letters of thanks from your manager, your name on a plaque in the lobby, and so on; in the military, you get ribbons and medals. To the argument that most of these awards mean very little in comparison to medals won in combat--eg, that getting an award for writing nice press releases makes one look like a "clown"--I would counter with this question: What do the "legit" medals and ribbons really mean to the men who have earned them, sometimes with their own blood and sweat? Does the military really believe that Bronze Stars, or Navy Crosses (or, for that matter, the Medal of Honor) completely captures and honors the brave acts and amazing feats of arms of the people who win them; or are these the equivalent of having your name etched onto an Employee of the Month plaque, an official acknowledgment of actions whose true heroism and significance can anyway never be properly appreciated by generals, politicians and the millions of others who were not there?
My point is twofold: (i) I do not see how the value of a medal won in combat is diluted by its position right next to a medal won for good prose, even as I *do* see the practical value of both as a way of identifying and distinguishing talent and achievement; and (ii) True badassery isn't a story well-told by someone's chest-gear anyway.
For what it's worth: GEN
For what it's worth: GEN Dempsey's official photo shows him wearing the ribbon for the AAM with what appears to be 1 bronze OLC. (Centered, 4th row from the bottom). Current CSA GEN Odierno's official photo also shows him wearing the ribbon for the AAM.
http://www.jcs.mil/imgHandler.ashx?h=0&w=312&img=/content/images/bio/201...
http://usarmy.vo.llnwd.net/e2/rv5_images/leaders/odierno_lg.jpg
There are, in my view, two
There are, in my view, two main approaches to wearing decorations. Either one decides to wear only a single decoration (the highest, or the one given for valour), or one wears also the low ones. The reason for a general to wear an AAM is to give his subordinates a clear signal: the AAM they have got is appreciated also by the general, even though he has many others, much more exalted decorations.
"As a journalist, or supply,
"As a journalist, or supply, or JAG clerk, or chaplains assistant, or finance, or vehicle maintenance, or weapon's repair, you can't earn an EIB or anything legitimately high-speed, so that's how you get something."
So what. Clerks and jerks don't deserve medals. Giving them meaningless "gold star for participation" medals devalues the medals that really do mean something.
Dempsey only wears the top
Dempsey only wears the top two rows of his ribbons which is BS. Where in 670–1 does it say that? If he's only going to sport the very senior personal decorations, and not the lesser ones or service ribbons, then he should not wear the unit awards either.
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for what its worth, generals
for what its worth, generals aren't bound by the auspices of AR 670-1, so they can wear whatever they feel like wearing, or not. If you were to look at Odierno or Dempsey official photos when they weren't generals, you'd see all their medals and awards. so i'm not sure what your point is using these guys as examples. it also seems that the author, who hasn't been on active duty for what, 6 or 7 years now, has forgotten the value of things like AAMs and ARCOMs, especially for junior enlisted Soldiers trying to get promoted.
I got an AAM in 1987 as an
I got an AAM in 1987 as an Infantry captain for leading a 3 day staff ride for my brigade...felt silly standing in the brigade awards ceremony.
However, a year later as a company commander I watched one of my new soldiers during an obstacle breech drill get out his Bradley and tear apart a triple strand concertina obstacle with mines...in MOPP 4 in the Georgia sun. Kid di the entire work of a squad because the rest of his squad were MILES kills. The brigade commander happened to be standing next to me and watching. He looked at me and said "Captain, make sure the paperwork is done properly on this." He then walked into the ditch and pinned an ARCOM on that PFC right there.
Damn skippy I did the paperwork!
That kid retired in 2007 as a CSM...and still sends me Christmas cards.
That;s what AAMs & ARCOMs are for.
I got a medal for that. And I
I got a medal for that. And I then had to explain all that to anyone who asked about it. Folks, I did not feel like a warrior. I felt like a clown.
The US tendency to hand out medals for pretty much anything is pretty odd - and comic- from a foreign point of view. In the British army you get medals:
if you go on an operational tour
for acts of exceptional gallantry
for exceptional command and leadership
for 15 years' long service (or 10 in the reserves)
...and that's pretty much it. You don't get a medal for being top-cover in a vehicle; that's your job.
Do you think that more
Do you think that more Physical Fitness Badges or Bronze Stars are given out by the National Guard? I am a Guardsman that got a Bronze Star for doing my job well. It was strange when I got it in the mail.
This whole discussion misses
This whole discussion misses the fact that the Army should want to reward things besides Valor. Valor is exceptionally important in battle but the entirety of war is not battle. Also America's military wins logistical wars. For every one guy on the ground, there are 15 making sure he has boots, beans, and bullets. Rewarding the logisticians for getting the right resources to the right guys at the right time is important in making sure it actually happens.
In any event the problem I saw with Awards in Afghanistan was that they are very subjective to unit and place. Does a soldier who volunteers for extra time outside the wire to help buddies who have sustained multiple 'wear and tear' injuries deserve an award for that? What about mortarmen who execute fire missions on time and on target despite enemy fire being specifically directed at them? What about a FSO who does crater analysis and IDs a fortified mortar position and destroys it? None of these are really "Valor" award material according to my unit. With the exception of the mortarmen, I tend to agree. But the Army should still want to reward these activities in some way. How much is it, hey, that's your job, and how much does it take to make it exceptional? And how much should local conditions drive what's exceptional? If everyone at a base spends two weeks at a remote and violent outpost, then is any of that considered exceptional anymore? What about compared to a a similar MOS who is eating ice cream because he is at a different base? For the most part, I think that piece is less relevant to most soldiers who only care about how it will look to their immediate buddies. The main problem that I saw was that politics played a bigger part than actual events.
Only scouts or infantrymen were up for valor awards because calling for fire and providing those fires wasn't valorous. So you'd have 11 series LTs who never seeing combat getting BSMs and 13Fs exposing themselves and calling in dangerous close missions getting ignored. Cooks defending mortar positions and mechanics volunteering for OP duty were also similarly ignored or downgraded.
Still, the solution is not to make it more difficult for anyone to get anything but instead make the process less political. Either take some of the subjectivity of the award process away or give into in an even greater fashion. I think the military could use a more granular scale of medals.
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