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Virtual Event | Developing Drone and Counter-Drone Capabilities with The Hon. Gabe Camarillo, Under Secretary of the Army

May 17, 2024
10:00am to 11:00am ET


On Friday, May 17 CNAS hoated a virtual fireside chat with the Honorable Gabe Camarillo, Under Secretary of the Army, moderated by Dr. Stacie Pettyjohn, Senior Fellow and Director of the CNAS Defense Program. This conversation broadly discussed the Army’s development of drone and counter-drone capabilities, drawing on lessons the Army has learned from the ongoing war in Ukraine.

Dr. Pettyjohn's recent CNAS report, Evolution Not Revolution: Drone Warfare in Russia’s 2022 Invasion of Ukraine, highlights the innovative ways Ukrainian and Russian forces have employed a range of drones, from small commercial quadcopters to long-range loitering munitions, as well as their successes and failures in countering the same types of capabilities. A potential war in the Indo-Pacific would require different uncrewed capabilities and pose different C-UAS challenges. Still, the war in Ukraine provides fundamental lessons on the ways in which today’s drones both have and have not changed the modern battlefield. These lessons include the importance of generating mass, bolstering the industrial base, and investing in diverse air defenses. Hon. Camarillo and Dr. Pettyjohn discussed these lessons and the Army’s broader approach in this space before taking audience questions.


The Honorable Gabe Camarillo
Under Secretary of the Army

Moderated by:

Dr. Stacie Pettyjohn
Senior Fellow and Director
Defense Program