August 11, 2026
From Subversion to Resistance: Lessons from Russia’s War in Ukraine
This episode examines how Russian operatives and local militants in 2014 transformed political unrest in eastern Ukraine into an armed insurgency—and what it teaches us about subversion, resistance, and state resilience. Dr. Celeste Wallander, an adjunct senior fellow at the Center for a New American Security, and Dr. Serhiy Kudelia are the guests.
Listen to the full interview on the Irregular Warfare Podcast.
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