March 13, 2026
Who Will Make Money on AI? With Paul Scharre
Paul Scharre joins Emily and Geoff to talk about how commercial markets for AI might evolve and how different market outcomes may mean different types of risks for U.S. national security interests. They also get into the ongoing dispute between the Pentagon and Anthropic over who gets to decide how AI is used in the military.
Paul Scharre is an expert on military AI, Executive Vice President at CNAS, and the author of "Four Battlegrounds: Power in the Age of Artificial Intelligence." Previously, he served at the Pentagon, where he played a leading role in establishing policies on unmanned and autonomous systems and emerging weapons technologies.
Shownotes:
- Paul Scharre, Army of None
- Paul Scharre, Four Battlegrounds: Power in the Age of Artificial Intelligence
- Jon Stewart, Dr. Sarah Shoker, and Paul Scharre, “Military AI: Anthropic, Open AI, & the Future of Warfare”, The Weekly Show with Jon Stewart
- Paul Scharre, CNAS Insights | Setting the Rules for AI Warfare
- Epoch.ai Epoch Capabilities Index
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