September 22, 2025
Countering the Swarm: America’s Drone Deterrence Strategy
Host Jim Cardoso is joined by Dr. Stacie Pettyjohn, senior fellow and program director at the Center for a New American Security, and Molly Campbell, research assistant at the Center for a New American Security, to explore why the U.S. must urgently rethink its counter-drone strategies—before it’s too late.
Listen to the full interview on At the Boundary.
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